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Timbo · 10-13-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rathji

So we can't start figuring out mafia, so instead we are killing people for something which obviously has no relation to their town/mafia status.

Seems like a pretty piss poor way of doing things.

So you yourself thinks only Wood is near 100% town. I think GGG is town. I am not sure on starseed. The game opening did say nothing is as it seems.
People can call it a #######Game if they want but you cannot deny it is vastly different than what we have played before.

But you think thats piss poor, so grab the reins and lead on, nice to see you have decided to become active again.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 10:13 AM

Why do you think GGG is town?

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

For me I have what I consider solid proof. My tracking results on ECF. You need to assess my trustworthyness in reporting them whereas I do not. Based on my tracking and who they were on I think it adds about 90% certainty that he is town. This combined with the other pieces of evidence puts me to the 99% town position. Of all people in this game ECF is the most town for me followed by wood as the dayvig. (Would be close to #######ly to have a dayvig scum).

Delgar dying limits there to being two possibilities. Mob/sk killed Delgar, or mob/sk tried to kill ECF. So it doesn't mean nothing. Mafia tring to kill ECF makes sense if ECF is the doctor. Alternatively killing delgar, while he is a good player, he was also under townie suspicion at the time he was killed. On balance this seems less likely.

Where do you see ECF in the spectrum of known town, likely town, leaning town neutral etc.?

Considering ECF was a suspect who made a claim, supposedly used an ability which did nothing, supposedly used another ability which we dont know what it did, didnt get killed by the mafia at night because of that claim, my thoughts right now are unconfirmed at best.

Others, like you and Timbo are treating ECF as confirmed town right now, which is ludicrous at this point in time.

GGG · 10-13-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rathji

Considering ECF was a suspect who made a claim, supposedly used an ability which did nothing, supposedly used another ability which we dont know what it did, didnt get killed by the mafia at night because of that claim, my thoughts right now are unconfirmed at best.

Others, like you and Timbo are treating ECF as confirmed town right now, which is ludicrous at this point in time.

So where do you have others then on spectrum? What's does your list look like.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

So where do you have others then on spectrum? What's does your list look like.

I hope to get to that later this afternoon

Timbo · 10-13-2014, 10:26 AM

Well it was posted in my wall of text version 2.
Coles notes version
If he was Mafia he would know what my flip would mean. (Yes I know how cliche) No way mafia wants to be so obvious.
I think he came to a wrong epiphany. Or, as I am vehemently opposed to joining a faction he seeks to eliminate me as his winning conditions have changed if I'm not with him I am against him. So either town but wrong, or town but misaligned.

Timbo · 10-13-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rathji

Others, like you and Timbo are treating ECF as confirmed town right now, which is ludicrous at this point in time.

Rathji this statement by you is very odd considering what I said in this post
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=2215

And you contradicted that. WTF?

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbo

Rathji this statement by you is very odd considering what I said in this post
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=2215

And you contradicted that. WTF?

I actually mistook the person I was reading on my phone. Was Oling, will quote in a sec.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Timbo hasn't done himself any favours with his 'defense' but remember it takes only 6 votes to deadline lynch, and we likely have 5ish mafia members. It is at this point that deadline lynches favour the mafia. East Coast Flame, I believe, was the first vote for Timbo so we know it wasn't a mafia plan but if Timbo is town they wont have a problem jumping on board and lynching him either.

This post, Oling considers ECF Confirmed town, not Timbo.

This game is considerably harder on a phone....

Timbo · 10-13-2014, 10:44 AM

What is even stranger is you ask me why I think GGG is town after you have posted a quote of my wall of text version 2 and what does the first paragraph say? http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=2208

Then later you post I am going off the deep end? So did you not read what I had posted and then quoted it but thought to interject your opinion with out reading? Are you just going with the lynch flow?

Thats twice.
I take back what I said about "nice to see you becoming active again" because clearly that is not the case. Maybe hiding and lurking has dulled you.

Seems very strange

Timbo · 10-13-2014, 10:47 AM

Phones suck for reading and backtracking in the thread for sure... oddly enough they work for backtracking on statements too.

Oling_Roachinen · 10-13-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rathji

This post, Oling considers ECF Confirmed town, not Timbo.

This game is considerably harder on a phone....

You're right Rathji, there's still the possibility that East Coast Flame and even Wood are not town.

I believe they are though. I believe that Delgar would have protected the claimed doctor and got killed for it. There's other possibilities that should be considered as well, but if East Coast Flame isn't the doctor, that's an even better reason to not jump on board.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo

What is even stranger is you ask me why I think GGG is town after you have posted a quote of my wall of text version 2 and what does the first paragraph say? http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=2208

Then later you post I am going off the deep end? So did you not read what I had posted and then quoted it but thought to interject your opinion with out reading? Are you just going with the lynch flow?

Thats twice.
I take back what I said about "nice to see you becoming active again" because clearly that is not the case. Maybe hiding and lurking has dulled you.

Seems very strange

If you are concerned about the quality of my quoting on my phone, and have resorted to personal attacks, then I guess you really have nothing.

dissentowner · 10-13-2014, 03:30 PM

This is an interesting back and forth. Timbo, you have really come unglued.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

You're right Rathji, there's still the possibility that East Coast Flame and even Wood are not town.

I believe they are though. I believe that Delgar would have protected the claimed doctor and got killed for it. There's other possibilities that should be considered as well, but if East Coast Flame isn't the doctor, that's an even better reason to not jump on board.

ECF and Wood are not even close to the same of the level of town confirmation. Treating someone as confirmed town when making an assumption is really damaging to the process, if they are not confirmed.

If you would like to provide a link to a role/ability that Wood could have that could be a mafia role, AND give some logic how it would make sense for a mafia member to kill GP_Matt in that situation, then I would gladly accept that he might not be town.

Until then, the only reasoning we have that ECF is a townie is a bunch of abilities we have not seen any impact from, and that 2 other townie believed what they claimed.

GGG · 10-13-2014, 04:32 PM

From mafia scum dayvig page

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Dayvigs are even more confirmable as Vigs for obvious reasons, but on occasion moderators have been known to include scum dayvigs.

I dont believe this to be true and consider wood confirmed town but its possible.

What we are losing track of is we need to lynch the most likely to be scum player. We keep being distracted from it.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GGG

What we are losing track of is we need to lynch the most likely to be scum player. We keep being distracted from it.

This.

Rathji · 10-13-2014, 04:42 PM

Btw, I was given an invite.

Unless someone comes up with a good reason not to, I am likely going to take it.

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GGG · 10-13-2014, 05:00 PM

Eternals or guardian's

dissentowner · 10-13-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rathji

Btw, I was given an invite.

Unless someone comes up with a good reason not to, I am likely going to take it.

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Why would you? I thought we established the given power does not work? Which side?