[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

That seems like a BS excuse.

Detailed analysis of the situation breaking down the cap space, LTIR and salary projection
-Pierre LeBrun

Nah bruh
-GioforPM

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Detailed analysis of the situation breaking down the cap space, LTIR and salary projection
-Pierre LeBrun

Nah bruh
-GioforPM

There is no reason that a future deal cannot be announced just because they haven't cleared next year's space yet, if that is their intention.

Teams have made signings taking effect in the future that put them over the future cap before. Vegas is probably one of those teams. They just say "yeah we signed, and we will make it work". And they invariably do. The only day that counts for next year's cap is day one of the season.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Conroy did very well. I wouldn't have traded the assets teams did for our vets having watched enough of them and seeing the decline in play. But of course never say that part out loud until after the fact.

Vancouver did the worst with that Lindholm package. Gridin and Brz for two months of a guy? Incredible.

Vegas in retrospect compensated us pretty well for two pretty mid defenders who haven't moved them forward, moreso if Rasmus walks this summer (he was always most at home and most valuable in Calgary anyways, I would say). We'll see what the 2026 and 2027 1sts turn out to be.

Kadri's return also looks pretty great considering where he's at age-wise. I wouldn't send that package for 34 year old Kadri with term left. But I think familiarity and pressure from MacKinnon played into it.

Conroy deserves his flowers. Did great.

Could be argued that Weegar should have returned a 1st. But three 2nds can probably be leveraged into a late first at the draft if they really want to.

[GMCC4PM]

Sucks to lose a character guy like Ras, especially one we developed.

But Conroy got a haul and the resulting trade tree from Sven could look really interesting a few years.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Detailed analysis of the situation breaking down the cap space, LTIR and salary projection
-Pierre LeBrun

Nah bruh
-GioforPM

Tons of teams sign deals that would put them over the cap for next season if they didnt make other moves between now and then. They could extend him now if they wanted. You dont have to be compliant for next season now so Lebrun is kinda wrong. Its possible they dont want to put themselves in that position but nothing is actually preventing it. Seems like a good way to buy time.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja

Moving on from Anderson, it’s time for the next generation.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Conroy did very well. I wouldn't have traded the assets teams did for our vets having watched enough of them and seeing the decline in play. But of course never say that part out loud until after the fact.

Vancouver did the worst with that Lindholm package. Gridin and Brz for two months of a guy? Incredible.

Vegas in retrospect compensated us pretty well for two pretty mid defenders who haven't moved them forward, moreso if Rasmus walks this summer (he was always most at home and most valuable in Calgary anyways, I would say). We'll see what the 2026 and 2027 1sts turn out to be.

Kadri's return also looks pretty great considering where he's at age-wise. I wouldn't send that package for 34 year old Kadri with term left. But I think familiarity and pressure from MacKinnon played into it.

Conroy deserves his flowers. Did great.

Could be argued that Weegar should have returned a 1st. But three 2nds can probably be leveraged into a late first at the draft if they really want to.

2 seconds worse than what the Flames have were traded for a 1st last draft let alone 3 2nds

[Roof-Daddy]

Not interested in signing Ras in the off season, but the thought of it is quite hilarious.

Trade Ras for a 1st, 2nd, Whitecloud, Weibe.
Vegas plummets down the standings.
Sign Weibe
Off season
Sign Ras
Trade Whitecloud for multiple assets if so desired

Vegas would probably never trade with CC again lol

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Detailed analysis of the situation breaking down the cap space, LTIR and salary projection
-Pierre LeBrun

Nah bruh
-GioforPM

In October Vegas extended Eichel (contract starting next season) and this wasn't an issue. Even though it put them over the cap for next year. So, nah, bruh.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

There is no reason that a future deal cannot be announced just because they haven't cleared next year's space yet, if that is their intention.

Teams have made signings taking effect in the future that put them over the future cap before. Vegas is probably one of those teams. They just say "yeah we signed, and we will make it work". And they invariably do. The only day that counts for next year's cap is day one of the season.

Originally Posted by dino7c

Tons of teams sign deals that would put them over the cap for next season if they didnt make other moves between now and then. They could extend him now if they wanted. You dont have to be compliant for next season now so Lebrun is kinda wrong. Its possible they dont want to put themselves in that position but nothing is actually preventing it. Seems like a good way to buy time.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

In October Vegas extended Eichel (contract starting next season) and this wasn't an issue. Even though it put them over the cap for next year. So, nah, bruh.

Sounds like BS.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The flames having a hand in Vegas' downfall is a delicious thought.

We were dreading dealing with them but sounds like their fans arent high on Hanifin and are souring on Rasmus. Meanwhile we're in possession of their next two firsts, one of their better young defensemen and a prospect.

It comes up short of Edmonton's of course, but vegas' recent crash out is one of the more enjoyable storylines

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Sounds like BS.

Except it happened. Last October.

[BigThief]

Sounds like BS man, my BS detector went off.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Sounds like BS man, my BS detector went off.

You are smelling yourself I think.

[BigThief]

Have you tried having a personality, GioforPM? It could help. Being humourless and uninteresting isn't the greatest thing in the world.

Since you're being annoying and pedantic about it, shocking, nothing changes about my original quip. Pierre Leburn is one of the more respected guys in the business and gave his take on the situation and yours was, "..seems fishy bruv". You offered nothing in responce just that tiny little thing, which I thought was hilarious. Yes Vegas signed Eichel to to a new contract in October but no it doesn't and didn't put them over the cap for next season Eichel's contract is 10 million and next year it's 3.5, so you just made that last part up hoping no one questioned it.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

In October Vegas extended Eichel (contract starting next season) and this wasn't an issue. Even though it put them over the cap for next year. So, nah, bruh.

Isnt there a 10% limit they can go over the cap? Maybe after the Eichel deal which already put them over the cap they could not afford another $8-9M deal?

Hasn’t the 10% rule existed since the cap came into the league?

[dino7c]

Guy is wrong there are dozens (probably more) of examples of teams singing deals that would potentially have them over the cup the following year. They 100% could sign him today if they wanted to...they might by years end who knows.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Guy is wrong there are dozens (probably more) of examples of teams singing deals that would potentially have them over the cup the following year. They 100% could sign him today if they wanted to...they might by years end who knows.

A team can go over a max of 10% in the offseason. Pretty sure the Ras deal puts them higher than that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Isnt there a 10% limit they can go over the cap? Maybe after the Eichel deal which already put them over the cap they could not afford another $8-9M deal?

Hasn’t the 10% rule existed since the cap came into the league?

In the summer not now...next years cap is irrelevant right now. They may not want to sign him now because of cap but they can legally under the CBA sign him at any time. We have seen tons of teams make deals, sign players knowing they will have to shed salary.

[sureLoss]

Its not wrong. Its called the NHL tagging rule but it has been updated in the last MOU so its technically not called that anymore.