04-15-2016, 02:27 PM
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#2181
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Originally Posted by rubecube
The international conventions on indigenous self-determination make it a lot more complex than simple integration.
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Of course, a) we should never let bureaucratic piffle get in the way of a true moral imperative.
b) Indigenous self-determination in Canada currently involves a benighted group of people groaning under the weight of real political and moral enslavement by their tribalist thug leaders, and an indifferent Canadian polity. Kind of a joke if you ask me - like asking a group of slaves in the South whether they would like to stay on the plantation or be let loose into the wilderness to die of malaria, vigilantes, and neglect. Of course they will choose the plantation every single time.
I am entirely sure that some formulation of abolition of the reserves is essential, just don't think it is an overnight solution or that integration is the eventual best outcome.
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04-15-2016, 05:04 PM
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#2182
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by peter12
Of course, a) we should never let bureaucratic piffle get in the way of a true moral imperative.
b) Indigenous self-determination in Canada currently involves a benighted group of people groaning under the weight of real political and moral enslavement by their tribalist thug leaders, and an indifferent Canadian polity. Kind of a joke if you ask me - like asking a group of slaves in the South whether they would like to stay on the plantation or be let loose into the wilderness to die of malaria, vigilantes, and neglect. Of course they will choose the plantation every single time.
I am entirely sure that some formulation of abolition of the reserves is essential, just don't think it is an overnight solution or that integration is the eventual best outcome.
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I'm not arguing that the reserve system is healthy, but any alternative needs to be mindful of indigenous self-determination as it's been set out in domestic and international law.
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04-15-2016, 05:31 PM
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#2183
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In the Sin Bin
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Honestly, I doubt any solution that is ratified by Natives themselves would be a concern. International law suggesting that a group can do/have something does not mean they can't also waive that right for something they feel is better.
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04-15-2016, 05:50 PM
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#2184
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Honestly, I doubt any solution that is ratified by Natives themselves would be a concern. International law suggesting that a group can do/have something does not mean they can't also waive that right for something they feel is better.
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Yeah, but good luck getting blanket agreement from all of the various bands. That's a whole other level of indigenous politics that we never really focus on.
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04-15-2016, 06:04 PM
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#2185
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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http://www.attawapiskat.org/wp-conte...Statements.pdf
Here is Attawapiskats financials, maybe someone with a little more knowledge can explain this to me and others - but it seems they got some cash up there - not that has anything to do with mental health but it wasn't that long ago they had a housing crisis
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04-15-2016, 07:14 PM
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#2186
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle29628869/
I assume that this is what Trudeau was talking about in his speech about big things coming for the Native communities in the coming years. This is after the 8.4B set aside for housing concerns. This seems to create more of a divide between Native people and everyone else, and really only supplies money.
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Vote buying? Shocking.
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04-15-2016, 10:52 PM
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#2187
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
http://www.attawapiskat.org/wp-conte...Statements.pdf
Here is Attawapiskats financials, maybe someone with a little more knowledge can explain this to me and others - but it seems they got some cash up there - not that has anything to do with mental health but it wasn't that long ago they had a housing crisis
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That crisis occurred even after the federal government spent 131 million bucks and built a bunch of new houses in 2011.
The problem is that Theresa Spence pretty well raped the community while she was running it.
The financial statements don't really give the true picture, its when they release the actual transactions that the picture becomes clearer.
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04-16-2016, 12:46 PM
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Had an idea!
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I read the other day that there are quite a few reserves that under no longer under the Indian Act and instead are making their own way.
Can someone explain this better? Is this possible to do?
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04-16-2016, 05:55 PM
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#2189
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I'm not arguing that the reserve system is healthy, but any alternative needs to be mindful of indigenous self-determination as it's been set out in domestic and international law.
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Not an answer.
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04-16-2016, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Interesting figure, didn't go into the background and if it includes new taxes and such, but I am wondering why we are so close to the Americans... low municipal taxes?
High poverty rate in the states and it is "average earners" ?
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04-20-2016, 01:57 PM
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#2191
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Appropriately timed press release:
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics...lize-1.3544554
Expect marijuana legislation in spring 2017 says health minister. Almost no details available yet though.
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04-20-2016, 02:03 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/spike...port-1.2864902
Honestly, regardless of your political stripes, this is encouraging to see.
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A dramatic spike in young voter turnout during the 2015 federal election was “critical to the Liberal majority victory,” a new report says.
The study, commissioned by the Commissioned by the Canadian Alliance of Student Associations, shows more than half of Canadians aged between 18 and 25 cast their ballots in the election.
Only 39 per cent of those in the same age group showed up to the polls in 2011.
“There was a major shift in this election in which the youth vote really did unify behind a single party and in doing so came out in larger numbers and probably drove that from a minority to a majority government,” Michael McDonald, the executive director of the alliance, said on CTV’s Power Play.
Forty-five per cent of millennials voted Liberal, 25 per cent supported the NDP, while the Conservatives only managed to sway 20 per cent of young voters.
McDonald said the numbers prove that young voters should not be dismissed as apathetic or disenfranchised, and that it’s up to politicians to effectively address issues that matter to millennials.
“Decision makers need to see young Canadians as a political force and respond with policy solutions that mirror their needs and expectations,” McDonald said.
McDonald said the study also sends a message to other parties that they need to do more to engage youth, who are expected to make up a quarter of Canada’s population by the time of the 2019 election.
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04-20-2016, 05:36 PM
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Had an idea!
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Pretty much exactly what the Canadian economy needs right now. Might even help with the massive deficit.
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04-20-2016, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Azure
Pretty much exactly what the Canadian economy needs right now. Might even help with the massive deficit.
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Well, they did say they wanted to go green. Nice of them to announce on 4/20.
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04-20-2016, 05:50 PM
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#2195
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by Locke
Nice of them to announce on 4/20.
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I think that was their plan all along despite the allegations that they were going to break their promise, etc. etc.
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04-20-2016, 07:56 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
Interesting figure, didn't go into the background and if it includes new taxes and such, but I am wondering why we are so close to the Americans... low municipal taxes?
High poverty rate in the states and it is "average earners" ?

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If this comes from the 2015 version of this report http://www.oecd.org/ctp/tax-policy/t...s-20725124.htm then it is only comparing income and payroll taxes. Those taxes actually aren't too much different in Canada vs the States anymore. It excludes property taxes, consumption taxes and any other indirect taxes. These vary greatly.
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The calculation of the after-tax income includes family benefits paid by general
government as cash transfers (see section on Family cash benefits from general government).
Income tax due on capital income and non-wage labour income, several direct taxes (net
wealth tax, corporate income tax) and all indirect taxes are not considered in this Report.
However, all central, state and local government income taxes are included in the data.
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http://www.oecd.org/ctp/tax-policy/t...tions-2016.pdf
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04-29-2016, 07:16 PM
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#2197
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Had an idea!
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Good news even if they want to downplay it. I personally have zero problem with the Liberals downplaying the economy even if they are doing it for political reasons.
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It may be the first surplus a finance minister doesn’t want to talk about.
Finance Canada reported Friday that the federal government had a $7.5-billion surplus with just one month left in the fiscal year.
For months, Finance Minister Bill Morneau has insisted the 2015-16 fiscal year, which ran until the end of March, would finish in deficit. The Liberals’ March 22 budget projected a deficit for that year of $5.4-billion, an outcome that now appears unlikely barring an unusually large deficit in March.
The monthly tracking of Ottawa’s bottom line – known as the Fiscal Monitor – showed the federal government ran a $3.2-billion surplus in the month of February.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle29797547/
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05-06-2016, 09:17 AM
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#2198
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Remember when people were upset that Harper took his kid to a hockey game in NY?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle29909861/
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Justin Trudeau took a small army of 44 people with him for a three-day visit to Washington last March, at a cost of more than $25,000.
The size and preliminary cost of the delegation invited to accompany the Prime Minister on his first visit to the U.S. capital has been disclosed in a document tabled in the House of Commons.
It’s not clear whether the delegation included one of two taxpayer-funded nannies employed by Trudeau and his wife, Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau, to help look after their three young children.
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Among those who appeared with Trudeau were at least nine cabinet ministers; five of his top PMO aides; his mother, Margaret Trudeau; Gregoire-Trudeau’s parents; top bureaucrat Michael Wernick; Liberal party president Anna Gainey; and chief Liberal fundraiser Stephen Bronfman.
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We sent 300 people to Paris last year. This guy has an entourage that would make Tyson jealous, just needs a couple of tigers now.
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05-06-2016, 09:23 AM
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#2199
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His mother, and wife's parents? Really?
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05-06-2016, 09:30 AM
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#2200
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
Remember when people were upset that Harper took his kid to a hockey game in NY?
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They were? If so, that's insanely petty, kind of like this.
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