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[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Oh really? I thought he'd think it came from Nucky since he just got removed from business by Rothstein. I also thought Rothstein maybe planned it that way to get Nucky out of the way.

But Rothstein was there when he talked about having the paper boy deliver the paper to his room and provide the room number. Gyp stared at the papers/paper boy on the way out. Also the shooter was Bugsy who is one of Lucky's guys.

I think he is going to know.

[North East Goon]

Killing Gyp now is going to need the skilled craft of a Harlow to execute.

[nik-]

Gyp might not suspect Rothstein because he saw the paperboy dead. He might not even know that Bugsy came posing as the paperboy.

[Canuck-Hater]

^ Im hoping Gyp is too stupid to figure this out as well.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by nik-

Gyp might not suspect Rothstein because he saw the paperboy dead. He might not even know that Bugsy came posing as the paperboy.

I can't say for sure, but when Owen reported it to Nucky didn't he say that there were 4 dead but Gyp wasn't one of them?

There were at least two guys at the door, one upstairs, the red head and the paperboy. Was that a hint that one of them might have survived? If so, It would have to be one of the door guys. paper boy and man upstairs were shot in the head and the red head took a lot of bullets.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I don't think Owen mentioned anything about survivors, just that there were 4 dead and none of them were Gyp. This was definitely the best episode of the season, but my god yes please can they just ditch Margaret already? I mean seriously, who gives a good #### about her storyline?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Another show where everyone hates the wife of the main character. Add Marageret to the list that also includes:

Carmela Soprano
Rita Bennett-Dexter
Skyler White-Breaking Bad
Betty Draper-Mad Men

I'm sure there's a lot more.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Another show where everyone hates the wife of the main character. Add Marageret to the list that also includes:

Carmela Soprano
Rita Bennett-Dexter
Skyler White-Breaking Bad
Betty Draper-Mad Men

I'm sure there's a lot more.

Network sitcoms are usually the opposite. The wife is usually eye candy.

I would add Cersei Lanister to your list from the first season of game of thrones.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Network sitcoms are usually the opposite. The wife is usually eye candy.

I would add Cersei Lanister to your list from the first season of game of thrones.

Don't forget Lori on The Walking dead (everyone wants her dead). Although I don't think Skylar or Cersei are all that bad.

[Coys1882]

I don't get the hate for Skylar - I don't think she's done anything wrong on the show and is a great character.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Another show where everyone hates the wife of the main character. Add Marageret to the list that also includes:

Carmela Soprano
Rita Bennett-Dexter
Skyler White-Breaking Bad
Betty Draper-Mad Men

I'm sure there's a lot more.

I never necessarily liked Carmela or Skyler, but their stories were/are integral to the overall development of the main story arc or main character.

Spoilers on the other two

Spoiler!

Betty has been effectively written out of madmen because her story is uninteresting, but they can't ignore her all together since she is the mother of his children.

They outright killed Rita because the story had run its course.

It's not that I don't like Margaret, I just find her story boring and she does nothing to add a dimension to Nucky.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Don't forget Lori on The Walking dead (everyone wants her dead). Although I don't think Skylar or Cersei are all that bad.

Just you wait on that one...

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Just you wait on that one...

[Mike F]

What do people have against Margaret? Unlike Skyler or Cersi, there have been no actions by her to piss us off. Unlike, Skyler, Cersi, or Betty, she doesn't have a grating personality that makes her generally unpleasant.

Just like the story of the ongoing presence of overt racism, as displayed in the Chalky White story line, women's rights, e.g suffrage, were huge issues at the time and both the Margaret and Gillian Darmondy story lines are great examples of what a strong woman could accomplish at that time, as well as the serious limitations they still faced. Is there no room for great character stories that don't involve shoot-outs?

Originally Posted by corporatejay

It's not that I don't like Margaret, I just find her story boring and she does nothing to add a dimension to Nucky.

Are you serious? The way he took Margaret and her children into his home and life and continues to care for them despite a pretty big betrayal by Margaret (which has obviously distanced the two of them to some degree) shows a softer side to Nucky that you don't get anywhere other than very brief flashes with his brother. Take away Margaret's story line and Nucky's basically a one-dimensional philandering gangster. The scenes in their home, with Nucky, Margaret, and the kids, totally round him out.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Mike F

What do people have against Margaret? Unlike Skyler or Cersi, there have been no actions by her to piss us off. Unlike, Skyler, Cersi, or Betty, she doesn't have a grating personality that makes her generally unpleasant.

Just like the story of the ongoing presence of overt racism, as displayed in the Chalky White story line, women's rights, e.g suffrage, were huge issues at the time and both the Margaret and Gillian Darmondy story lines are great examples of what a strong woman could accomplish at that time, as well as the serious limitations they still faced. Is there no room for great character stories that don't involve shoot-outs?

There's room for it, but does it have to be so boring?

She was an interesting character the first 2 season; the way she got involved in the plot and changed as a character was great to watch. Her effect on Nucky added a great element too.
This season, the story line they've carried with her just doesn't interest any of us.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Margaret was my fav character in Season One, I thought her story was the most interesting.

I definitely still like her, but it hasn't been the same with her.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I don't think Owen mentioned anything about survivors, just that there were 4 dead and none of them were Gyp. This was definitely the best episode of the season, but my god yes please can they just ditch Margaret already? I mean seriously, who gives a good #### about her storyline?

4 dead (the girl, inner guard, one of the outer guards, and the paperboy). that leaves the other outer guard alive (who naked Gyp walked over at the end) who could finger the shooter, and he knows that it wasn't the regular paperboy

[North East Goon]

Margaret with an interesting turn at the end of last night's episode.

[Ark2]

Personally, I felt that this might have been one of the worst episodes of this series. Margaret just seems to be rehashing her story from last season now. Jimmy's mom and Harrow are currently in the midst of two completely irrelevant side stories that seem to serve little purpose other than to include them in the show and two of the more interesting stories (Gyp and Capone) were completely untouched. Which basically leaves us with Nucky, whose arc is starting to take form, but at an incredibly slow pace, and if it just ends up building into another season of legal trouble for him, then I'd have to say that I am pretty unimpressed.

I'm sure that there are those who will say that I am just complaining because there weren't any shoot-outs in last night's episode, but that's honestly not the case. I just felt like there is very little in the way of compelling storyline and it leaves me concerned that the writers have already run out of ideas, as they have begun to repeat themselves. Really starting to wish that they didn't kill Jimmy off last season.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Personally, I felt that this might have been one of the worst episodes of this series. Margaret just seems to be rehashing her story from last season now. Jimmy's mom and Harrow are currently in the midst of two completely irrelevant side stories that seem to serve little purpose other than to include them in the show and two of the more interesting stories (Gyp and Capone) were completely untouched. Which basically leaves us with Nucky, whose arc is starting to take form, but at an incredibly slow pace, and if it just ends up building into another season of legal trouble for him, then I'd have to say that I am pretty unimpressed.

I'm sure that there are those who will say that I am just complaining because there weren't any shoot-outs in last night's episode, but that's honestly not the case. I just felt like there is very little in the way of compelling storyline and it leaves me concerned that the writers have already run out of ideas, as they have begun to repeat themselves. Really starting to wish that they didn't kill Jimmy off last season.

Good thing there's a Jimmy Two then!