CP Historical Figures Draft (Round 14) (pick anytime)

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by troutman

I took a picture of his house in Trier.

Wasn' that the trip down the Mosel that made you late for your wedding?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

Wasn' that the trip down the Mosel that made you late for your wedding?

Yes - your fiancee taught me how to dance a waltz at a beer garden on the Mosel.

[Yeah_Baby]

I sometimes wonder if Marx doesn't get too much credit as opposed to Engels.

[Montana Moe]

In the Vigilante/Outlaw/Rebel category, Jim Garrison's Briefs selects Oglala Lakota Sioux Warrior Crazy Horse.

Crazy Horse fought against the U.S. federal government in an effort to preserve the traditions and values of the Lakota way of life.

No confirmed photograph of Crazy Horse exists. A sculpture of Crazy Horse is being created in South Dakota which will likely not be completed in any of our lifetimes.



Crazy Horse was instrumental in many victories over the U.S. Army on the Great Plains, including the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

All quotes from link: http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/peop...crazyhorse.htm

When the War Department ordered all Lakota bands onto their reservations in 1876, Crazy Horse became a leader of the resistance. Closely allied to the Cheyenne through his first marriage to a Cheyenne woman, he gathered a force of 1,200 Oglala and Cheyenne at his village and turned back General George Crook on June 17, 1876, as Crook tried to advance up Rosebud Creek toward Sitting Bull's encampment on the Little Bighorn. After this victory, Crazy Horse joined forces with Sitting Bull and on June 25 led his band in the counterattack that destroyed Custer's Seventh Cavalry, flanking the Americans from the north and west as Hunkpapa warriors led by chief Gall charged from the south and east.

Following the Lakota victory at the Little Bighorn, Sitting Bull and Gall retreated to Canada, but Crazy Horse remained to battle General Nelson Miles as he pursued the Lakota and their allies relentlessly throughout the winter of 1876-77. This constant military harassment and the decline of the buffalo population eventually forced Crazy Horse to surrender on May 6, 1877; except for Gall and Sitting Bull, he was the last important chief to yield.
Even in defeat, Crazy Horse remained an independent spirit, and in September 1877, when he left the reservation without authorization, to take his sick wife to her parents, General George Crook ordered him arrested, fearing that he was plotting a return to battle. Crazy Horse did not resist arrest at first, but when he realized that he was being led to a guardhouse, he began to struggle, and while his arms were held by one of the arresting officers, a soldier ran him through with a bayonet.

[GirlySports]

In the 6th round Aeneas selects Neil Armstrong in the Living category



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong

[GirlySports]

In the 6th round, troutman selects in the Woman category, CLEOPATRA VII:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra

Cleopatra VII Philopator (in Greek, Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ; January 69 BC – August 12, 30 BC) was the last effective pharaoh of Egypt's Ptolemaic dynasty. She originally shared power with her father Ptolemy XII and later with her brothers Ptolemy XIII and Ptolemy XIV, whom she also married, but eventually gained sole rule. As pharaoh, she consummated a liaison with Gaius Julius Caesar that solidified her grip on the throne. She later elevated her son with Caesar, Caesarion, to co-ruler in name.

After Caesar's assassination in 44 BC, she aligned with Mark Antony in opposition to Caesar's legal heir Gaius Julius Caesar Octavian, later known as Augustus. With Antony she bore a set of twins, Cleopatra Selene II and Alexander Helios, and another son, Ptolemy Philadelphus. Her successive unions with her brothers produced no children. After losing the Battle of Actium to Octavian's forces, Antony committed suicide. Cleopatra soon followed suit, according to tradition killing herself by means of an asp bite on August 12, 30 BC.[1] She was briefly outlived by Caesarion, who was declared pharaoh, but he was soon executed on Octavian's orders. Egypt became the Roman province of Aegyptus.

To this day Cleopatra remains a popular figure in Western culture. Her legacy survives in numerous works of art and the many dramatizations of her story in literature and other media, including William Shakespeare's tragedy Antony and Cleopatra, Jules Massenet's opera Cléopâtre, the 1963 film Cleopatra. In most depictions, Cleopatra is put forward as a great beauty and her successive conquests of the world's most powerful men is taken to be proof of her aesthetic and sexual appeal. In his Pensées, philosopher Blaise Pascal contends that Cleopatra's classically beautiful profile changed world history: "Cleopatra's nose, had it been shorter, the whole face of the world would have been changed."[6]

[RougeUnderoos]

Wildcard:

Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

Best books ever. So it goes.

[Displaced Flames fan]

In the category of political leader team Historyectomy is proud to select Theodore Roosevelt.



Read nearly everything there is to know about TR here...including the time he was shot during a campaign stop, diagnosed himself and concluding that he wasn't in imminent danger gave his 50 page speech (which may have saved his life tucked inside his pocket) anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_roosevelt

but the reason Roosevelt is my favorite president is that he was the first conservationist in the White House, an outdoorsman and a naturalist, and he used these personal values to leave the United States a better place than he found it.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

In the category of political leader team Historyectomy is proud to select Theodore Roosevelt.

I thought you were out of town! How's the trip so far?

[Yeah_Baby]

Ill post the info later, but I'll make my pick so I'm not aked.

In the Innovator category I select Woodrow Wilson.

I'm prepared to defend it when I have time to post the info. But I am talking in the context of the founding of IR as a discipline, collective security etc.

[Itse]

Just popped by to apologize for the inconvenience. I'm traveling right now, so taking time for this draft is a little difficult. I'll be back thursday next week, I'll try to make my picks then at the very latest.

For those who are curious, I'm in Mantova (Italy), I came from Innsbruck (Austria), where I have some friends, and I'll visit Munich (Germany) before heading home.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Itse

Just popped by to apologize for the inconvenience. I'm traveling right now, so taking time for this draft is a little difficult. I'll be back thursday next week, I'll try to make my picks then at the very latest.

For those who are curious, I'm in Mantova (Italy), I came from Innsbruck (Austria), where I have some friends, and I'll visit Munich (Germany) before heading home.

No problem. I wish I could make such a trip!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

No problem. I wish I could make such a trip!

No kidding.

This is the most laid back draft of any of the previous drafts I have participated in. No bickering, everyone is fine with the pace. Polite self-imposed AK's. Can't beat it!

BTW...why did you think I was out of town?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

No kidding.

This is the most laid back draft of any of the previous drafts I have participated in. No bickering, everyone is fine with the pace. Polite self-imposed AK's. Can't beat it!

BTW...why did you think I was out of town?

No bickering is very nice for me! I think cause it's summer and nothing's going on.

Cause I just realized I mistook you for FlamesKickAss who's on the softball trip.

Too many Flames fans

[octothorp]

In the military leaders category, I'm taking the only man to ever seriously challenge the roman empire, the Carthaginian General Hannibal. When it comes to sheer audacity, it's hard to think of a battle strategy more unexpected than Hannibal's. The last thing that Rome expected that they needed to do was defend their country from elephants coming at them from the alps, and yet that's exactly what they found themselves faced with.
Once entering northern Italy in 218 BC with about 40,000, 4,000 cavalry, and about 35 war elephants at his disposal, he destroyed much of the Roman military in three successive battles, killing as much as 100,000 romans and losing only about 10,000 of his own. And keep in mind this wasn't just anybody he was fighting: this was the highly organized, highly efficient Roman army. And he went as close as any military leader could come to pitching a shutout against them. The death toll for the Romans at Cannae included 70,000 soldiers, 3 current or former consuls, 29 military tribunes, and 80 senators. And all of this while losing less than 8,000 of his own men. It was one of the most studied battle maneuvers in history, with Hannibal drawing his forces back into a crescent, so that the superior number of Roman forces would be surrounded by a relatively puny number of Carthigians and allies, and with the numerical advantage removed, he used his cavalry to slaughter the Roman command.

Lack of political will and support back home in Carthage eventually forced his hand and cause him to abandon the war against Rome without taking the city; in particular, lack of heavy siege equipment brought him down. Still though, he deserves major props not only for his battlefield strategy but for the vision of the entire campaign.


(Also Girlysports: a correction to the draft board: it shows Bolivar in the eastern category. He should be equatorial).

[Berger_4_]

I'll take Nellie McClung for my women category.



http://www.mta.ca/about_canada/study...e_mcclung.html

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

No bickering is very nice for me! I think cause it's summer and nothing's going on.

Cause I just realized I mistook you for FlamesKickAss who's on the softball trip.

Too many Flames fans

That's funny, FKA or "Timber" (because he likes to fall when drunk) as we call him, asked me why he was rec'd a PM re this draft.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

That's funny, FKA or "Timber" (because he likes to fall when drunk) as we call him, asked me why he was rec'd a PM re this draft.

Cause commish was drunk.

He should have just replied to me asking, WTF are you talking about?

[Montana Moe]

Jim Garrison's Briefs selects: Major General Smedley Butler - Soldier Category



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
Official USMC page: http://tinyurl.com/cdzbfw
Amazon link to "War is a Racket" http://tinyurl.com/raumll

Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.
During his 34 years of Marine Corps service, Butler was awarded numerous medals for heroism including the Marine Corps Brevet Medal (the highest Marine medal at its time for officers), and subsequently the Medal of Honor TWICE.

First Medal of Honor citation:

For extraordinary heroism in action as Commanding Officer of detachments from the 5th, 13th, 23d Companies and the Marine and sailor detachment from the U.S.S. Connecticut, Major Butler led the attack on Fort Riviere, Haiti, 17 November 1915. Following a concentrated drive, several different detachments of Marines gradually closed in on the old French bastion fort in an effort to cut off all avenues of retreat for the Caco bandits.

Reaching the fort on the southern side where there was a small opening in the wall, Major Butler gave the signal to attack and Marines from the 15th Company poured through the breach, engaged the Cacos in hand-to-hand combat, took the bastion and crushed the Caco resistance. Throughout this perilous action, Major Butler was conspicuous for his bravery and forceful leadership.


2nd Medal of Honor citation:

For distinguished conduct in battle, engagement of Vera Cruz, 22 April 1914. Maj. Butler was eminent and conspicuous in command of his battalion. He exhibited courage and skill in leading his men through the action of the 22d and in the final occupation of the city.


While Butler's battle resume is unparallelled, it was his work away from battle that was of great interest to me.

Following WWI, Butler became Commanding General of the Marine Barracks at Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia and served in this capacity until January 1924...While at Quantico he transformed the wartime training camp into a permanent Marine post. During a training exercise in western Virginia in 1921, he came across the burial place of Stonewall Jackson's arm; he dug it up, and replaced it in a metal box.



Director of Public Safety
At the urging of Butler's father, U. S. Rep. Thomas S. Butler, the newly elected mayor of Philadelphia, W. Freeland Kendrick, asked Butler to leave the Marines to become Director of Public Safety, the official in charge of running the police and fire departments.

Philadelphia's municipal government was notoriously corrupt. Butler refused at first, but when Kendrick asked President Calvin Coolidge to intervene, and Coolidge contacted Butler to say that he could take the necessary leave from the Corps, Butler agreed. He served in the post from January of 1924 until December of 1925.

Butler ordered raids on more than 900 speakeasies. He also went after bootleggers, prostitutes, gamblers and corrupt police officers. Butler was more zealous than politic in his duties; in addition to cracking down on gangsters and working-class drinking dives, he saw no reason to spare the social elite's favorite speakeasies, the Ritz-Carlton and the Union League.

After almost two years in office Butler resigned under pressure. He later said, "Cleaning up Philadelphia was worse than any battle I was ever in."



Anti-War/Political actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
The Business Plot (also the Plot Against FDR and the White House Putsch) was a reported political conspiracy in 1933 which involved wealthy businessmen plotting a coup d’état to overthrow United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 1934 Smedley Butler testified to the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional committee that a group of men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a coup. One of the purported business men was none other than Prescott Bush...


In his 1935 book, War Is a Racket, Butler presented an exposé and trenchant condemnation of the profit motive behind warfare. His views on the subject are well summarized in the following passage from a 1935 issue of the magazine, Common Sense:

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

[Five-hole]

In the sixth round, Team Five-hole selects, in the category of Vigilante/Outlaw/Rebel, Hans Scholl.



Hans Fritz Scholl (22 September 1918 – 22 February 1943) was a core and founding member of the White Rose resistance movement in Nazi Germany.

In 1933 Scholl joined the Hitler Youth. At first he was enthusiastic but, influenced by the views of his father, he became increasingly critical of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi government. In 1937 Scholl was arrested and briefly jailed after being accused of subversive activities.

In the summer of 1940 Scholl was sent as a member of the medical corps that went with the German Army invading France. Later than year he returned to Munich where he joined with Sophie Scholl, his sister, Inge Scholl, Christoph Probst, Kurt Huber, Alexander Schmorell, Willi Graf and Jugen Wittenstein to form the White Rose.

In June, 1942, Scholl, was called up as a medic during Operation Barbarossa. While on duty Scholl and his friends witnessed Jews being murdered by the Schutz Staffeinel (SS) in Poland and the Soviet Union. When Scholl returned to Germany in October, 1943, he and the White Rose began publishing leaflets about what he had seen while in duty. The leaflets were at first sent anonymously to people all over Germany. Taking the addresses from telephone directories, they tended to concentrate on mailing university lecturers and the owners of bars.

In Passive Resistance to National Socialism, published in 1943 the group explained the reasons why they had formed the White Rose group: "We want to try and show that everyone is in a position to contribute to the overthrow of the system. It can be done only by the cooperation of many convinced, energetic people - people who are agreed as to the means they must use. We have no great number of choices as to the means. The meaning and goal of passive resistance is to topple National Socialism, and in this struggle we must not recoil from our course, any action, whatever its nature. A victory of fascist Germany in this war would have immeasurable, frightful consequences."

The White Rose group believed that the young people of Germany had the potential to overthrow Adolf Hitler and the Nazi government. In one leaflet, Fellow Fighters in the Resistance, they wrote: "The name of Germany is dishonoured for all time if German youth does not finally rise, take revenge, smash its tormentors. Students! The German people look to us."

The White Rose group also began painting anti-Nazi slogans on the sides of houses. This included "Down With Hitler", "Hitler Mass Murderer" and "Freedom". They also painted crossed-out swastikas.

Members also began leaving piles of leaflets in public places. On 18th February, Hans Scholl and Sophie Scholl began distributing the sixth leaflet produced by the White Rose group. Jakob Schmidt, a member of the Nazi Party, saw them at the University of Munich, throwing leaflets from a window of the third floor into the courtyard below. He immediately told the Gestapo and they were both arrested. They were searched and the police found a handwritten draft of another leaflet. This they matched to a letter in Scholl's flat that had been signed by Christoph Probst.

The three members of the White Rose group appeared before the People's Court judge, Roland Friesler, on 20th February. Found guilty of sedition they were executed by guillotine a few hours later. Just before he was executed Hans Scholl shouted out: "Long live freedom!"

Wiki

The White Rose's legacy has, for many commentators, an intangible quality. Playwright Lillian Garrett-Groag stated in Newsday on 1993 February 22 that "It is possibly the most spectacular moment of resistance that I can think of in the 20th century... The fact that five little kids, in the mouth of the wolf, where it really counted, had the tremendous courage to do what they did, is spectacular to me."