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metallicat · 12-19-2007, 03:36 PM

So people should be punished based on "what ifs"? These two situations are so different. Five people dead, versus one person dead. If you can't see the difference between the two incidents, then I can't help you. I am by no means downplaying Heatley's accident, but this is just so much worse and tragic.

moon · 12-19-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fotze

I am personally suprised how easy PR-wise Heatley got off on that accident. Ya he has to live with it and all that jazz, but from a strict public perception view, I don't remember more than a couple negative articles about him. Maybe it is because he was from Calgary, or that the family forgave him, or that it was a friend, or that he wasn't drunk. I'm not sure but it seems weird. People are pretty darn 'law and order' around here and the Heatley reaction seemed out of step with that.

I think it is because many people themselves speed and could imagine the same type of situation happening to them. Heck I imagine that many could imagine themselves as Snyder egging their buddy on as well and may not want their buddy being punished if that were the case. The family of Snyder also had a big part to do with it as well. Hard to call for blood when those closest to the victim don't want to see any themselves.

The Calgary incident might explain some of the feelings here but from what I have heard the feeling of Calgary fans don't seem to be that out of line form those from other cities in general.

burn_baby_burn · 12-19-2007, 04:27 PM

I think Heatly got off pretty easy. If myself or any other regular person would have done the same thing? We would be sitting in jail. Yeah, people speed. But speeding on the highway and going 80mph in a residential area are two very differant things.

SeeGeeWhy · 12-19-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by urban1

Heatley wasnt drunk. He barely registered any alcohol content.

He was on coke.. allegedly.

As was Snyder... allegedly.

fredr123 · 12-20-2007, 12:51 PM

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/...0/4734147.html

No bail for you.

There's a publication ban on the details of the application and the reasons for the decision.

urban1 · 12-20-2007, 03:05 PM

I dont want to hijack the thread but "allegedly"??? That wasnt even a good rumour back then.

Back on topic...

Good to see the guy will spend the holidays in remand. Only down side is he'll get double or triple time for time served awaiting trial if he ever gets convicted of anything.

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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

He was on coke.. allegedly.

As was Snyder... allegedly.

The Yen Man · 12-20-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Heatly could have just as easily plowed into a family going at the speed he was when he lost control. Because he had the "good fortune" of only hitting a wall, and only killing his passenger, this makes it so Heatley walks, while the truck driver deserves the death sentence according to some. Heatley's action and the truck driver's actions were the same. They both decided to recklessly drive at an extremely unsafe speed and "accidently" killed someone.

Well, last time I checked, there is a difference between aggravated assault vs. manslaughter / murder too. The actions could have been the same by the assailant, but the result determined the charges. So you bet outcomes matter when determining the severity of the punishment.

Dion · 12-20-2007, 05:53 PM

Guess this guy will be eating chipped beef or turkey for Christmas.

FlamesAddiction · 01-26-2008, 03:43 AM

For those interested, charges have been upgraded against the driver. He could spend life in prison:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...r-upgrade.html

Resolute 14 · 01-26-2008, 08:48 AM

So he'll spend five years in jail instead of one. Better, I guess.

fredr123 · 03-09-2009, 08:45 AM

Bump. Trial starts today.

mykalberta · 03-09-2009, 08:48 AM

Guy deserves life IMO.

Stupidy is not a valid excuse.

fredr123 · 03-09-2009, 11:34 AM

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/...9/8682881.html

Kevin Martin of the Calgary Sun checks in with highlights from the Crown's opening statements.

burn_this_city · 03-09-2009, 11:45 AM

This is almost guaranteed to be a "insult the victims family" with the punishment trial. If we're lucky he'll get 7-10 years, chances are 4-5 years total.

CaptainCrunch · 03-09-2009, 11:47 AM

Sure is an argument for consecutive terms instead of concurrent ones.

Azure · 03-09-2009, 11:50 AM

He should get 30 to life. Easily.

Doubt he will though.

Drunk driving should be severely punished.

malcolmk14 · 03-09-2009, 12:12 PM

Not sure how off-base I am but is it possible to go down to the court house and sit in on a trial like this? I've always been kind of curious.

Regulator75 · 03-09-2009, 12:15 PM

This story still makes me sick to my stomach, what an ass. Hope he rots.

JiriHrdina · 03-09-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Not sure how off-base I am but is it possible to go down to the court house and sit in on a trial like this? I've always been kind of curious.

Yup you sure can.

FlamesAddiction · 03-09-2009, 12:21 PM

Drinking and driving should be an automatic 2nd degree murder charge if you kill someone.

If it's true that he threw a vodka bottle out of the truck after the crash and refused to give a breath sample, it's obvious he was drinking and driving.