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Table 5 · 01-05-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

That's the problem with pricing lower to attract early adopters...lower pricing psychologically in the consumer's eye means inferior product.

While I think that might be true with the average consumer, I think most early adopters are more savy than that. Early adopters are so because they love their tech gear, and often do the research beforehand.

While I hate Sony, I did go Blu-Ray, mostly because the PS3 gave me a good excuse to finally get a video game system as well.

I actually hope HD-DVD stick around, that way they can keep hammering it out and giving us customers good deals.

photon · 01-05-2008, 05:06 PM

New Line announces Blu-ray only as well.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/n...blu-footsteps/

SarichFan · 01-05-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by photon

New Line announces Blu-ray only as well.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/n...blu-footsteps/

Wow, that's huge. Lord of the Rings comes to mind

TurnedTheCorner · 01-06-2008, 11:51 PM

I don't get why the New Line announcement is being treated as separate news - Warner owns New Line does it not?

I'll continue to by HD-DVDs if they're available, DVDs if they're not. I suppose if push comes to show I may buy a dual format player so that I can continue to enjoy HD movies without having to re-purchase any HD-DVDs in my collection.

SarichFan · 01-07-2008, 12:30 AM

Wait, so you're going to buy a dual format player? wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a PS3 and re-buy the HD-DVD's you'll actually watch again in Blu-Ray? Obviously you'll have to wait for Movies like Transformers, or shows like Heroes to go Blu.

Dual format players are going to be pricey no?

I've personally picked up a couple Blu-Ray's I had on HD-DVD because I plan to sell what HD-DVD's I have on ebay.

I actually was a HD-DVD supporter from when the 360 add on was released but the writing was on the wall a long time ago to me, and I haven't looked back since.

TurnedTheCorner · 01-07-2008, 07:25 AM

The newest Samsung dual format player was announced at CES with an MSRP of $599 USD. Not much more than a PS3, and it can play both formats. I'd rather pay a little extra for that than to re-buy my 20+ HD-DVDs. But to each their own. I think I'd prefer one unit in the home theater rather than two dedicated players, should I go that route.

Russic · 01-07-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

The newest Samsung dual format player was announced at CES with an MSRP of $599 USD. Not much more than a PS3, and it can play both formats. I'd rather pay a little extra for that than to re-buy my 20+ HD-DVDs. But to each their own. I think I'd prefer one unit in the home theater rather than two dedicated players, should I go that route.

If you have 20+ hd movies than the dual format might be a good choice.

You Need a Thneed · 01-07-2008, 10:20 AM

Everyone knows this is going to end with all players becoming dual format. in a year or two, dual format players will be cheaper then any single player is now, and won't cost any more then a single format player (If they are even still available).

Then, of course, one the formats will win, because there's no point in creating two versions of a movie when all the players sold will play both. Whichever format is cheaper to produce at the time will become virtually the only format sold, but noone will care. Does anyone care about the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?

Engine09 · 01-07-2008, 10:38 AM

Some people are talking like their HD-DVDs will turn to dust if BluRay comes out on top. You have the hardware already, keep your HD-DVDs and watch them whenever you want. I've already been thinking about buying a PS3 just so I can rent the BluRays at Blockbuster, plus I'll be able to play whatever games are out for the PS3.

When I was a kid we had both Beta and VHS, because we wanted to watch whatever movies were available. It's not like you're buying a car or a house, hardly a huge investment that warrants "holding out" until there is a winner.

Table 5 · 01-07-2008, 10:37 PM

Paramount looks like it might be trying to get out of it's HD DVD exclusive deal....while this might not be the end of HD DVD, there sure hasn't been much positive news coming out of that camp in a while now.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ea637496-b...nclick_check=1

JayP · 01-07-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Some people are talking like their HD-DVDs will turn to dust if BluRay comes out on top. You have the hardware already, keep your HD-DVDs and watch them whenever you want. I've already been thinking about buying a PS3 just so I can rent the BluRays at Blockbuster, plus I'll be able to play whatever games are out for the PS3.

When I was a kid we had both Beta and VHS, because we wanted to watch whatever movies were available. It's not like you're buying a car or a house, hardly a huge investment that warrants "holding out" until there is a winner.

What's the point of owning a HD-DVD if no new movies will get released on it? I don't know much about the Beta/VHS war, but I'm guessing that 5/7 (and soon to be 6) major movie studios didn't exclusively release movies on only one format.

If Paramount jumps then there's simply no reason for HD-DVD to exist.

Daradon · 01-07-2008, 11:48 PM

At least this one was over relatively quickly. Unlike VHS vs Betamax which lasted several years.

Still wondering it Blu-Ray will end up like Laser Disc though... quickly eclipsed by something else.

Hack&Lube · 01-07-2008, 11:58 PM

Congratulations Sony on your first format war win in 4 decades.

TheyCallMeBruce · 01-08-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Daradon

At least this one was over relatively quickly. Unlike VHS vs Betamax which lasted several years.

Still wondering it Blu-Ray will end up like Laser Disc though... quickly eclipsed by something else.

It may be sooner than you think. Next generation may indeed not be disc format at all.

SarichFan · 01-08-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

It may be sooner than you think. Next generation may indeed not be disc format at all.

I don't buy this at all.. Digital distrubution will never take hold over physical media.

For rentals, maybe... but if people are paying $20+ for anything you bet your ass they'll want a physical product to put on their shelves.

LockedOut · 01-08-2008, 12:45 AM

It'll still take a long time if Blu-Ray becomes standard for BD to overtake DVD's. When DVD's became popular people did not have the collection of movies and TV shows on VHS like they do now on DVD. Thus there wasn't the major financial hassle of repurchasing the movies on DVD. I doubt today people are willing to repurchase alot of what they have on DVD. The DVD movies and players are so much cheaper than what VHS ever achieved in its time that people probably have one for each TV, possibly a portable DVD player, DVD player in each computer and a DVD player in their car. These are hurdles HD has to overcome to become mainstream not to mention getting more HDTV's into homes. Until then it's still a niche product.

Edit: BTW I own both a Toshiba HD-DVD($99 FS BD

) player and a PS3. So I'm not some DVD fanboi.

SarichFan · 01-08-2008, 12:48 AM

Blu-Ray will never become standard but it'll be strong enough to sustain a studio's interest in producing HD movies for those who care and want to watch movies in HD over standard Def DVD's.

Engine09 · 01-08-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JayP

What's the point of owning a HD-DVD if no new movies will get released on it?

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Originally Posted by Kryzsky

You have the hardware already, keep your HD-DVDs and watch them whenever you want.

I plan to continue buying HD-DVDs, maybe I'll be able to get them for cheap if BluRay takes over quickly. HD is HD, no matter what color plastic the case is made of. And I am buying a PS3 very soon, I'll slowly start buying BluRays when most releases are exclusive.

Bill Bumface · 01-08-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SarichFan

I don't buy this at all.. Digital distrubution will never take hold over physical media.

Seems to be working alright for music...

TheyCallMeBruce · 01-08-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SarichFan

I don't buy this at all.. Digital distrubution will never take hold over physical media.

For rentals, maybe... but if people are paying $20+ for anything you bet your ass they'll want a physical product to put on their shelves.

You may not buy it, but that is the reality and the direction we are heading. It has been argued for years that the physical media needs to reinvent itself to stay alive.

And I doubt you'd be paying $20 if digital distribution comes into play. If given the choice, I would gladly spend $5 to get my movies, than $20 for some paper and plastic.