Al Gore coming to Calgary

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Azure

Hmmm...



http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html

Comforting indeed.

Yes... as I said, the damage that has already been done is done. This does not mean that humans have caused 100% of the possible damage they are able to, it means that they've already caused enough for long-term consequences.

I don't see anywhere where it says that, because there are already unavoidable long-term consequences, we should stop trying to do anything about mitigating further more damaging consequences.

[Azure]

I think both articles point out that there is nothing we can do to stop global warming.

We KNOW some of it is human caused, be it 1%, 10% or 90%....so I can't figure out why both articles would mention that there is nothing we can do about it.

We can reduce emissions, we can cut down on pollution, we can drive fuel efficent cars, etc, etc.

Seems a bit of a fear-mongering attitude to say there is nothing we can do about it. Unless these people believe global warming is 100% caused by nature.

[Looger]

i think what they may be saying is that we're looking at the effects of <insert climate change device here>, written in stone so to speak, and we're not going to have a noticable effect on the near future of the climate regardless of what we do.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by kevman

I posted the information where to get a peer reviewed journal article arguing that it's natural but it appears that everyone simply ignored my post. Sorry that I can't post the full article but that would be against CP guidelines for piracy. The article is:
"The Global Warming Debate: A Review of the State of Science"
and can be found in the journal of Pure and Applied Geophysics.

It was actually really easy to find so I can track down some more if you want. Turns out that even though Mr. Gore said that there are no Peer Reviewed articles disagreeing with him this was the first article that appeared while searching for "global warming climate change"...

Sorry, bud, but this has to be said.

1. You didn't provide us a link. You merely assured us that it was "peer reviewed." How do you know? Are you on their board?


2. Furthermore, what you posted is actually a review article. Review articles are subject to a completely different review process than actual, real scientific articles. It's obvious that you have no idea what a peer reviewed article actually is--and that's not your fault--I'm guessing you're not a scientist.

The fact is, this debate is over. Even the GOP in the US is coming around: John McCain admitted on the radio that "the debate is over." Even president Bush, he of the gag orders on government climate scientists, mentioned the "challenge of global climate change" in his State of the Union.

Honestly, I class the people who think global warming is a "hoax" right up there with people who don't believe in evolution, or who think Bush planned 9/11, or that the earth is flat. If you still don't believe in anthropogenic global warming, given all of the evidence, there's only one explanation: you don't want to believe it. In that case, there's no point in a debate.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Flamescupbound!

Oh damn, i'm sorry...so he didn't claim to have invented...just created?
Invent...create....very similar no? It's still laughable either way.

It's really not that laughable. If you take his remark in context, he was referring to committee work that he did in Congress. Nowhere does he claim that he "invented" or "created" the internet. He was "instrumental" in the creation of the internet, when it was a government project that needed funding. This is actually not a lie. But keep on believing he's a "liar" if it makes you feel better.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

The problem with his statement is that the internet existed before he was
elected to the Senate.

See now that actually IS an "untruth." It boggles my mind that you continue to post things that one can contradict with a simple Google search.

Al Gore's congressional career began in 1976. By 1980 he was a senator. The Internet in its current form (though arpanet dates back to the 60s, I believe--I'm not an expert) did not exist until 1984.

As an interesting side note, Gore actually did coin the phrase "information superhighway." Also, the male lead in "Love Story actually WAS based on him and Tommy Lee Jones. If you really look into Gore's famous "lies," you'll find there's about as much truth to them as there was to your "Obama went to a madrassah" story.