[News] Sportsnet interview with Maloney (2-parter)

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I know that sports fans are absolutely furious when they find out that a match has been fixed. There's abundant history of it. But apparently I'm not allowed to know that without having you come in and snark at me.

By the way, the word you were looking for is ‘omniscience’. Omnipotence means being all-powerful. But I don't claim to be omniscient, I just claim to have a grasp of the perfectly bloody obvious. People don't shell out big money to watch a competition if they know one side has agreed in advance to lose.



Show me where I said anything about keeping those players that long. Ever. Anywhere.

Being omniscient could be an indication you could be omnipotent. Certainly being omniscient could be a precursor to being omnipotent. Words are fun.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If they fired Conroy people would absolutely lose their minds even worse than they already are. There is absolutely no chance they do this..... I think.

If they fire Conroy or fail to extend him they’ll lose even the support of people on the patience/trust the group side of things. I can only speak for myself but I trust Conroy, and trust everyone else so far as supporting him to carry out his vision for building the team. Without him, there’s nothing to trust.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by getbak

This is paving the way for POHO Lanny McDonald.

These disastrous press days from Maloney do seem to pave the way for the Flames to use him as a fall guy when they decide to use the "R" word in public and decide to pursure a new POHO who is "willing to embrace and embody this bold new vision".

Lotta mental gymnastics to get there on my part, for sure.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

If they fire Conroy or fail to extend him they’ll lose even the support of people on the patience/trust the group side of things. I can only speak for myself but I trust Conroy, and trust everyone else so far as supporting him to carry out his vision for building the team. Without him, there’s nothing to trust.

I am just about the most negative person on here when it comes to our ownership and management. And when I refer to these, this is excluding Conroy.

I like Conroy and I would be very disappointed if we lost him. When I am venting and if I say management or team direction, I have always 100% been referring to Murray Edwards, Don Maloney and others.

With full autonomy, I know Conroy is smart enough to do the right thing. And he's cooked in some trades. I just don't trust he has full autonomy, I have always been skeptical because of the dinosaurs who are above him.

[Reign of Fire]

Instead of tossing jerseys on the ice, maybe it's time Flames' fans adopt the Jacksonville Jaguars' fans clown movement to get the owner's attention. Litter the team posts and announcements with clown emojis!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

These disastrous press days from Maloney do seem to pave the way for the Flames to use him as a fall guy when they decide to use the "R" word in public and decide to pursure a new POHO who is "willing to embrace and embody this bold new vision".

Lotta mental gymnastics to get there on my part, for sure.

I had the same thought, especially with the Shanahan rumblings. Would be a gross thing for ownership to do to send a guy out to hurt his career like that, but it’s easier to believe than a lot of other things.

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I am just about the most negative person on here when it comes to our ownership and management. And when I refer to these, this is excluding Conroy.

I like Conroy and I would be very disappointed if we lost him. When I am venting and if I say management or team direction, I have always 100% been referring to Murray Edwards, Don Maloney and others.

With full autonomy, I know Conroy is smart enough to do the right thing. And he's cooked in some trades. I just don't trust he has full autonomy, I have always been skeptical because of the dinosaurs who are above him.

And I’m the opposite, I’ll put my trust in them until the actions make it impossible. But man, that action would make it impossible, and Francis’ take on the interview did not give me hope the words were just words. We’re friends on this one tonight. The Flames have to fix this or else they’re proving all that negativity right.

Conroy needs 100% autonomy and we need to see it. Or we need someone above him who can actually earn some trust back.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

All this really proves to me is that PR is just as important as the actual actions that the organization takes.

Even if we are rebuilding it’s just important to call it a rebuild.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Being omniscient could be an indication you could be omnipotent. Certainly being omniscient could be a precursor to being omnipotent. Words are fun.

That's true. Words are fun.

[mile]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Let's say if Conroy is fired or simply not extended. You will know what his stance was and what this Baloney Maloney/Ownership stance was.

We're at a fork in the road folks......

I posted a while ago that Flames were in a rebuild etc and just werent saying it publicly or whatever BUT THIS is a change in tone. THIS is ownership speaking and Conroy is not part of it.

Concerning

[Cecil Terwilliger]

My doctor told me I’m omnipotent and gave me pills to fix it.

I don’t know if that makes me more qualified to be an nhl GM. But it sure made my wife a lot happier.

[FanIn80]

Should Craig Conroy be given full autonomy to set the direction of this franchise and to manage this franchise accordingly?

I would like a poll for that exact question.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I am just about the most negative person on here when it comes to our ownership and management. And when I refer to these, this is excluding Conroy.

I like Conroy and I would be very disappointed if we lost him. When I am venting and if I say management or team direction, I have always 100% been referring to Murray Edwards, Don Maloney and others.

With full autonomy, I know Conroy is smart enough to do the right thing. And he's cooked in some trades. I just don't trust he has full autonomy, I have always been skeptical because of the dinosaurs who are above him.

Holy crap Rhett .. I pretty much agree with you in that.
In Conroy we trust.

The others…not so much.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Except that Goriders' summary conveniently left out any mention of the inconsistencies, contradictions, condescension, and the completely tone deaf message that was conveyed. One would have to live in a fantasy world to think that interview had any positive merit, or struck any positive chord with the fanbase.

Why does it have to?

He’s summarizing why they are so ####ty. Do you want him to lie to you? Or blow smoke up your ass?

He essentially said what I think about the team. Not everything has to be sugar coated.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Sure, that is why I said it is best not to communicate. Maloney is a terrible communicator but there was nothing said that indicated they would change course from the rebuilding process they have been undertaking for 3 years now. There was nothing even that said definitively they would not be trading the vets. But it was clearly a bad interview.

It is for all intense and purposes the definition of a first world problem.

[Willi Plett]

Originally Posted by jaydub74

This.
Would be great to hear the crowd make multiple chants regarding the state of this teams management (with the exception of Conroy) and its ownership.

“Sell the team”
“We want a new owner”
Etc…

It would be great if a particular game was picked and boycotted. This is the message that is needed.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You would pay $10,000-plus a year to watch a team throw 41 games on purpose?

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I’d rather watch that instead of a bunch of mediocre bozos bumble truck their way to another 17-20th place finish.

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

That’s where you and I differ, I would support the team through a true rebuild if it meant some hope of playoff success, no matter how they got the picks to do it.

What isn’t acceptable is consistently poor results and no propect of change.

You don’t get to choose if the throw the games, you’ve already spent your $10000+ on tickets. That money is gone, all you get to choose is if you want to renew next year. I would be much happier with a high draft pick and more likely to renew seasons tickets after they throw a season and draft some talented players.

[browntrout]

Honestly the interview means nothing, they might say some things, but behind close doors, it's a different story,

Even if they wanted to get better in the short term, it ain't happening, free agency sucks, players with NTC and MNTC are not coming to Calgary, given that the team is rebuilding, (and it is a rebuild)

This is just posturing. I get the value on holding onto some vets, but even trading Andersson is going to bring back a 1st round pick and probably a second and prospect. The team has made strides restocking the team with prospects.

[GioforPM]

I for one support the team rebuilding. But I also know when I stopped buying my pair of quarter seasons tickets because I felt like I could spend $4K on more enjoyable things to watch live. Still watch pretty much every game on TV. But when I knew they were going to be bad (pretty much on purpose) that’s a lot of money to spend. And it was only a quarter season and they were not Presidents Club level. I could only imagine what people spending on a full season have to decide.

[Royle9]

I haven’t liked Maloney since his days driving phoenix into the ground with terrible drafting history and perpetual rebuilding. I’d wager that’s probably why he thinks the CGY market can’t do it and would explain his PTSD.

I’d prefer to move on from him, I personally dont see the value especially if he’s the man behind the “we can fix this” mantra, and it would make sense given he tried to fix the Coyotes his entire tenure there, which he failed miserably.

[bubbsy]

I think it’s getting crystal clear, the Calgary Flames have no real intention to win a Stanley Cup. Their entire model is to ‘just get in’.

They just aren’t willing to accept and sacrifice a few years.

Sucks as a fan. Having a goal of a middle of the pack team is boring.