2025 NCAA Football Thread

[Strange Brew]

Miami passes Notre Dame despite both not playing.

Oregon and Ole Miss basically get first round byes. The other two games will be good.

[puffnstuff]

Some talking head mentioned it yesterday, committee doesnt punish for losing conference championship games and head to head matters when two teams are ranked next to each other.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Some talking head mentioned it yesterday, committee doesnt punish for losing conference championship games and head to head matters when two teams are ranked next to each other.

Yeah IMO they got it right with Miami and ND. Just weird that last week was different.

And I'm fine with keeping Alabama in, you shouldn't be punished for losing a conference championship. Now it would be a better playoff if you had ND and Texas in instead of Tulane and JM for sure.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Some talking head mentioned it yesterday, committee doesnt punish for losing conference championship games and head to head matters when two teams are ranked next to each other.

It’s all bull####. Miami doesn’t jump ND with no one playing because they are suddenly ranked beside each other. They just are terrible at what they do.

They dropped Miami way too far initially. ND is probably the best of the 3. Alabama only makes it so teams don’t skip the championship games where everyone will conveniently forget that they were uncompetitive and got stomped. They shouldn’t get another chance.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah IMO they got it right with Miami and ND. Just weird that last week was different.

And I'm fine with keeping Alabama in, you shouldn't be punished for losing a conference championship. Now it would be a better playoff if you had ND and Texas in instead of Tulane and JM for sure.

Why shouldn’t they? They were terrible.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Some talking head mentioned it yesterday, committee doesnt punish for losing conference championship games and head to head matters when two teams are ranked next to each other.

But they seemingly punished BYU for losing the Big 12 championship. And Bama lost almost as badly as BYU did.

The head to head makes sense, but I don't get why Notre Dame was ranked just above Miami the past month, if that was the case.

[Weitz]

Yah the real problem was not ranking ND and Miami correctly for weeks before this.

I’m guessing they go the basketball route and maybe only publish the top 4 once or twice before making the selections.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

What a joke this committee is.

Bama jumps ND with a signature win vs Auburn, Bama doesn’t drop when getting blown out, BYU does drop when getting blown out, inexplicably they re-arrange the rankings for teams who didn’t play.

I’ve always defended these clowns, even when they dropped FSU. But this is a complete embarrassment to what little integrity college football was hanging onto.

I don’t even care ND didn’t make it. It’s that this fully reinforces they’re not serious and the whole process is about as legitimate as the WWE.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

This was done for the ACC because since duke won ESPN couldn’t handle them being left out. If Virginia wins, ND is in.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Ultimately it's the logical inconsistencies and random changes they make that are the frustrating part, but I can't muster too much outrage for the 12th team in a tournament that shouldn't have more than six teams in it.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Ultimately it's the logical inconsistencies and random changes they make that are the frustrating part, but I can't muster too much outrage for the 12th team in a tournament that shouldn't have more than six teams in it.

The biggest issue is forcing entry to teams who don’t belong (Tulane and JMU). Just go 12 best.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The perpetual issue is really the lack of a defined path for all teams into the playoff. We've gone from "Won't someone think of #3???" with the BCS to "Won't someone think of #5???" in the original CFP to now "Won't someone think of #13???", and inevitably #17, 25, 33, 65 etc...But the conference mess that we have makes that basically impossible. I know Duke sucks, but they won a P4 conference title, they should be in.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

No. Duke should not be in. They’re a mediocre team in the 4th best conference.

But the fact that ESPN has tv deals with the acc and sec and clearly completely rigged the selection process to favour them cannot be ignored. They left out ND because they needed to have an ACC team in the playoff. Simple as that. They dropped BYU and didn’t drop Bama because they needed 5 SEC teams in and BYU isn’t good for ratings nor do they have a tv contract with the B12.

The 5 best conference champion rule is idiotic and has no place now that we have 2 top conferences, 2 failing conferences and the G5.

[Senator Clay Davis]

But they won their conference title, from a conference considered a P4 even if it's not very good. Lots of mediocre teams in the NFL make the playoffs out of bad divisions, but there's no committee who can kick them out. The goal needs to be to remove the committee and their bias from the equation. If we never get defined paths, this will keep happening. Maybe bring back the BCS computer to decide the teams who get in so that bias gets removed, just need everyone to agree on the formula.

[ResAlien]

What's the outrage for? Notre Dame lost to the two good teams they played, who both made the playoff, and their only signature win is over a mediocre USC team. Join a conference for real, play in a title game, and reap the benefits or don’t but stop the tears. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But they won their conference title, from a conference considered a P4 even if it's not very good. Lots of mediocre teams in the NFL make the playoffs out of bad divisions, but there's no committee who can kick them out. The goal needs to be to remove the committee and their bias from the equation. If we never get defined paths, this will keep happening. Maybe bring back the BCS computer to decide the teams who get in so that bias gets removed, just need everyone to agree on the formula.

I disagree on Duke. They would’ve gotten annihilated just like James Madison and Tulane are going to.

But fully agreed on the BCS. All of the worst fears people had about the committee came true.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I don't really care if they get annihilated or not, if you roll with a setup that segregates the P4 and G5 and then don't reward a P4 conference champion, that seems incredibly stupid. As I said, 12th team in a tournament that has no more than six worthy teams is not a big deal to me, setting defined standards is though.

[transplant99]

Yeah.....no problem with putting Miami in over ND.

Miami not only beat ND but their resume is way better overall.

ND is so badly over rated almost every year, I think this is a wake up call for them to get serious and join a power conference.

Yeah they will lose a coupe of their traditional rivalry games but those teams are generally free spots on the bingo card anyhow.

[ResAlien]

Notre Dame taking their ball and going home by announcing they are refusing to play in a bowl game this year. This is where you put the gif of Kobe saying "soft"

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I don't really care if they get annihilated or not, if you roll with a setup that segregates the P4 and G5 and then don't reward a P4 conference champion, that seems incredibly stupid. As I said, 12th team in a tournament that has no more than six worthy teams is not a big deal to me, setting defined standards is though.

I don’t know if you can have too strict or defined standards. Ultimately it’s always going to be somewhat subjective.

But better standards and a better process than they have now would be very much welcome.

I absolutely want to see the 12 best and 12 most deserving team teams. I have no real desire to watch a group of five team get destroyed every single year.

That’s kind of besides the point of the issue. The current issue is that the committee are a complete farce and have no idea what they’re doing week to week. They’re picking teams that they want to see play based on ratings and conference affiliation rather than the, albeit highly flawed, standards and process that they currently have.

The fact that they applied different standards to different teams and completely ####ed up their process by rearranging teams who didn’t even play so that they could do favours for certain conferences is ####ing stupid.

At this point it doesn’t even matter if they picked the right team teams. The problem is with how they did it.