[Rumour] LeBrun: Flames remain interested in Cozens despite trading for Frost

[SeanCharles]

I want Cozens but would be pissed if any of Coronato, Zary, or Paraekh were used to do so (Wolf is obvious).

[InternationalVillager]

LOL Parekh. Nice one.

[blankall]

Perekh is Cozens before everyone found out Cozens wasn't that good. Why would any team trade the prospect with potential for the guy who's not living up to their potential.

[Bonded]

Cozens value is at best the same as when Dach got traded imo.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I was one of the few who were advocating for Broberg and Hollway, and I said the same thing about them that I am saying about Cozens- get them out of the bad environment they are in and watch them shine. I said the same about Kakko too.

I was on the Broberg and Holloway train too.

And I am not against acquiring Cozens. It is simply a matter of price - Andersson + Pospisil + pick is crazy.

If Cozens were on an ELC, that would be different. But he costs $7M per, and is not as good as Andersson - he may NEVER be as good as Andersson.

Pospisil + 1st? Sure. Add Andersson too? Crazy, IMO.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Maybe you missed him at the 2021 WJ's where he had 8g-16pts in 7 games which was twice as many as the next Canadian.

Drafted as a #1 center, big, great skater, high-end IQ, great shot and highly competitive. Just because Tage Thompson came out of nowhere to replace Eichel and got most of the top center and PP time doesn't remotely mean he can't take the role.

Conroy should work his ass off to get this guy, everyone should be on the table not named Wolf and maybe Parekh

He doesn’t play great defense either though. He has a long way to go on both sides of the puck and hasn’t been able to run with the #2C role let alone a #1C role.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I want Cozens but would be pissed if any of Coronato, Zary, or Paraekh were used to do so (Wolf is obvious).

You would be surprised the crazy stuff I have heard on these two teams conversations.

[Royle9]

Wolf, Zary, Coronato and Parehk are all off limits.
Won’t see either new addition flipped either.

These guys are all long term building blocks.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Unless you're getting a star back and Coronato and a pick or prospect are part of the deal, he's basically untouchable IMO with where the Flames are at. His skill set and age is far to valuable to move for a Cozens.

If you're moving a young forward in a deal for a C like Cozens it would have to be Zary way before anyone else. He's still a bigger question mark in my eyes and hasn't fully found his niche as an NHLer yet.

Last 2 seasons...

Cozens: .553 PPG
Zary....: .544 PPG

Sideways and pointless trade. The idea is to add to the young core, not swap it around, just for the sake of trades.

Oh, and Coronato? No way.

Huberdeau? 100%. Let's do that.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Wolf, Zary, Coronato and Parehk are all off limits.
Won’t see either new addition flipped either.

These guys are all long term building blocks.

I have heard if a deal with Cozens gets done one of the pieces for sure going back is Connor Zary.

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have heard if a deal with Cozens gets done one of the pieces for sure going back is Connor Zary.

Geez! Hard pass on that I hope.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Gotta give to get.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have heard if a deal with Cozens gets done one of the pieces for sure going back is Connor Zary.

I'm not sure I do that even if it's 1 for 1.

Cozens has the draft pedigree but Zary is currently the better player.

Something like Zary, Miro plus 2nd (maybe late 1st) for Cozens, Byram?

Edit: feels like we wouldn't be giving up enough... Maybe would need a d prospect too?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Last 2 seasons...

Cozens: .553 PPG
Zary....: .544 PPG

Sideways and pointless trade. The idea is to add to the young core, not swap it around, just for the sake of trades.

Oh, and Coronato? No way.

Huberdeau? 100%. Let's do that.

Cozens is the much bigger centre, and has a 31 goal and 68 point season under his belt. They played in the same WJC, in 2021. Cozens had 16 points and Zary had 2. Both players are the same age, but Cozens clearly has the better pedigree and remain a more valuable asset.

I'm sure Flames scouting would be looking at Cozens under a microscope and determining what his potential is beyond these two last not so good seasons in Buffalo.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have heard if a deal with Cozens gets done one of the pieces for sure going back is Connor Zary.

Wouldn't do that 1 for 1, let alone add.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have heard if a deal with Cozens gets done one of the pieces for sure going back is Connor Zary.

Then no thank you

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by blankall

Cozens is the much bigger centre, and has a 31 goal and 68 point season under his belt. They played in the same WJC, in 2021. Cozens had 16 points and Zary had 2. Both players are the same age, but Cozens clearly has the better pedigree and remain a more valuable asset.

I'm sure Flames scouting would be looking at Cozens under a microscope and determining what his potential is beyond these two last not so good seasons in Buffalo.

Yes, Cozens has one good year, and the pedigree.

Conversely, Zary has been progressing more, and is, right now, a better player.

'One of the pieces going back'? No way.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

How in the hell do Pelletier and Kuzmenko not have the proper visas to go into the US? They're in that country at least a couple times a month to play hockey. Seems ridiculous. If that trade hadn't happened they would have gone to Seattle to play with the Flames.

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I assume its a different visa when you are going there to live, vs. just working.

It seems to be a problem when a player who has never played for a US-based team gets traded to a US-based team for the first time, but not a problem if a player has previously played for a US-based team.

Kuzmenko has only ever played for Vancouver and Calgary, so it makes sense for him. I am surprised Pelletier is having trouble because he did play a season in Stockton, so I would have thought it would have been sorted out then.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by blankall

Cozens is the much bigger centre, and has a 31 goal and 68 point season under his belt. They played in the same WJC, in 2021. Cozens had 16 points and Zary had 2. Both players are the same age, but Cozens clearly has the better pedigree and remain a more valuable asset.

I'm sure Flames scouting would be looking at Cozens under a microscope and determining what his potential is beyond these two last not so good seasons in Buffalo.

At what point does pedigree stop becoming a consideration? Who cares if Cozens was a better player in 2021? Zary is a more valuable asset today because he is younger, more productive at the moment, and is not being paid an obscene amount of money that he isn’t living up too.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes, Cozens has one good year, and the pedigree.

Conversely, Zary has been progressing more, and is, right now, a better player.

'One of the pieces going back'? No way.

Maybe if it’s Cozens and Byram coming back for Zary + a 7th