07-07-2024, 04:10 PM
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#201
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
If Brad Treliving has taught us nothing else...its that he is a piss poor evaluator of Coaching talent.
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I can agree with that.
Unfortunately, a market like Calgary isn't going to be attractive to the obvious top coaches. So the ability to pick a diamond in the rough is hugely important, and Treliving just didn't have it.
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Last edited by Jay Random; 07-07-2024 at 04:12 PM.
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07-07-2024, 04:28 PM
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#202
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
I can agree with that.
Unfortunately, a market like Calgary isn't going to be attractive to the obvious top coaches. So the ability to pick a diamond in the rough is hugely important, and Treliving just didn't have it.
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And now he's in one of the biggest, wealthiest and most desirable markets in the League and...the trend continues.
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07-07-2024, 04:29 PM
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#203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
And now he's in one of the biggest, wealthiest and most desirable markets in the League and...the trend continues.
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Are you saying Berube was a bad hire?
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07-07-2024, 04:32 PM
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#204
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Are you saying Berube was a bad hire?
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I have no idea personally. I'm not even sure Brad picked him.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Shanahan picked him and Brad just bitches that 'its part of the process.'
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07-07-2024, 04:51 PM
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#205
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I have no idea personally. I'm not even sure Brad picked him.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Shanahan picked him and Brad just bitches that 'its part of the process.'
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In that case, I'm not sure how you can really say ‘the trend continues’.
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07-07-2024, 04:56 PM
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#206
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
In that case, I'm not sure how you can really say ‘the trend continues’.
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Simple. Management over-rules Treliving and picks their own candidate.
Who do you think hired Sutter? It sure wasn't Brad.
The trend continues.
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07-07-2024, 06:01 PM
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#207
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I have no idea personally. I'm not even sure Brad picked him.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Shanahan picked him and Brad just bitches that 'its part of the process.'
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Oh god. This nonsense again.
‘I kNoW a GUy whO sAys BrAd waS FirED’.
Sure.
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07-07-2024, 06:10 PM
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#208
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Oh god. This nonsense again.
‘I kNoW a GUy whO sAys BrAd waS FirED’.
Sure.
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Dude. Relax. If you go back through all of my posts, Treliving was never 'Fired.'
His contract was simply not renewed.
And usually, if this is all well and good, typically employers would allow him to search out new work. Which they did not. Until convinced to. Why is that? Might be a reason?
I have never claimed to have 'Inside Information' or 'know anyone' but I can extrapolate from data.
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07-07-2024, 06:27 PM
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#209
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Franchise Player
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People seem to be underestimating how much continuity there is between management regimes in Calgary. Running a team in the modern NHL isn’t a one-man show. It’s a collaboration of 6-9 people. Owner, president, head of hockey operations, GM, assistant GMs, head of scouting, cap guy, analytics guys, etc. They all have their say in every important decision.
Most of the guys who were sitting around that table during Treliving’s tenure are still there. Edwards, Maloney, Pascall, Conroy, etc. The biggest difference between the management under Treliving and under Conroy is that Conroy has been given a green light to re-tool/set/build. He has a different strategic direction than Treliving had. And he didn’t make that call on his own.
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07-07-2024, 06:28 PM
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#210
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Locke
Dude. Relax. If you go back through all of my posts, Treliving was never 'Fired.'
His contract was simply not renewed.
And usually, if this is all well and good, typically employers would allow him to search out new work. Which they did not. Until convinced to. Why is that? Might be a reason?
I have never claimed to have 'Inside Information' or 'know anyone' but I can extrapolate from data.
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Nah. Don’t feel the need to go through your post history. Probably littered with calling people idiots and losers or some other rubbish.
The job was Treliving’s if he wanted it. He didn’t. The ‘idiot’ went to go work as the GM for hockey’s most valuable franchise, aside from, maybe, the New York Rangers. Oh, right, I forgot. He only got that job because his dad is rich.
‘Wake up sheeple!’
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07-07-2024, 07:32 PM
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#211
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Simple. Management over-rules Treliving and picks their own candidate.
Who do you think hired Sutter? It sure wasn't Brad.
The trend continues.
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A second ago you were arguing he was a piss poor evaluator of coaching talent.
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07-07-2024, 07:36 PM
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#212
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Sutter was the only good coaching hire
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07-07-2024, 08:25 PM
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#213
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Nah. Don’t feel the need to go through your post history. Probably littered with calling people idiots and losers or some other rubbish.
The job was Treliving’s if he wanted it. He didn’t. The ‘idiot’ went to go work as the GM for hockey’s most valuable franchise, aside from, maybe, the New York Rangers. Oh, right, I forgot. He only got that job because his dad is rich.
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Why do some people feel the need to bully to get a favored result? Not everyone is going to have the same opinion, Locke has been around awhile and a good poster. No need to intimidate someone because he has a different pov. Maybe that is how he genuinely feels for the reasons that he has stated.
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07-07-2024, 08:26 PM
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#214
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
A second ago you were arguing he was a piss poor evaluator of coaching talent.
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Pretty sure you know which coaches he was talking about.
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07-07-2024, 08:28 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Simple. Management over-rules Treliving and picks their own candidate.
Who do you think hired Sutter? It sure wasn't Brad.
The trend continues.
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So if he hires a bad coach, it's because he can't hire a good coach, and if he hires a good coach, it's because he was overruled by his bosses?
Sounds like a good gig you've got there. Heads you win, tails Treliving loses.
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07-07-2024, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
Why do some people feel the need to bully to get a favored result? Not everyone is going to have the same opinion, Locke has been around awhile and a good poster. No need to intimidate someone because he has a different pov. Maybe that is how he genuinely feels for the reasons that he has stated.
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Yeah, Locke is cool. After hearing him tell all the stories where he got hit in the head pretty brutally his personality makes more sense, so you just gotta let it flow.
I have a list of guys who are in need of a good bullying if anybody wants it, though. Fun ones, too. A guaranteed good time.
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07-07-2024, 08:51 PM
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#217
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Man the Flames should have kept Tre.
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07-07-2024, 09:09 PM
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#218
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Came to read about Tkachuk, left after seeing a bunch of small pp keyboard warriors swinging their virtual dongs.
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07-07-2024, 11:15 PM
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#219
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Originally Posted by manwiches
Came to read about Tkachuk, left after seeing a bunch of small pp keyboard warriors swinging their virtual dongs.
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Seems to be how the off season runs around here.
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07-07-2024, 11:46 PM
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#220
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Calgree
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief
Sutter was the only good coaching hire
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Peters was good.
Until it came out that he’s an abusive racist
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