05-04-2024, 06:13 PM
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#201
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Scoring Winger
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Oilers out this round...Canucks out the next.
This is the way.
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05-04-2024, 06:44 PM
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#202
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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Originally Posted by SemicolonD
When "getting its sh** together" means winning a lottery, what do you want them to do call Bettman to rig the lottery for them?
Edmonton has done nothing but squander building a cup winning team around McDavid, if they somehow finally manage to do it like any other management group would've been able to with McDavid/Drai, then it'll be on the back of McDavid and not any impressive decisions by management.
They are not and will never be a model for success. If luck is your founding principle, you can't really be emulated. Them winning will do nothing for our ownership that hasn't already happened since the playoff series loss against the Oilers. And if any small mindset shift did happen, it's NOT worth the Oilers winning the cup at any time ever lol.
Sorry but ya the Oilers winning a cup is absolutely not acceptable under any circumstance.
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I don't think I made my thoughts very clear. I am not saying that Edmonton is a model franchise or one to be copied, far from that. That being said, they have been a better team in recent years and may be able to have some additional post season success.
Personally I think the Oilers have been extremely poorly managed for a very very very long time, but so have the Flames. A lot of time I think each fan base looks at each other pissing and moaning when in reality we are both losers. Misery loves company so to speak.
Both franchises had the most success when both were fantastic teams, success and competing against it makes everybody better.
If Edmonton is able to do some damage, it may provoke ownership and management to quit messing around.
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05-04-2024, 06:49 PM
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#203
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#1 Goaltender
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The great thing about this series is that one of these teams is going to lose.
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05-04-2024, 07:01 PM
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#204
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by curves2000
I don't think I made my thoughts very clear. I am not saying that Edmonton is a model franchise or one to be copied, far from that. That being said, they have been a better team in recent years and may be able to have some additional post season success.
Personally I think the Oilers have been extremely poorly managed for a very very very long time, but so have the Flames. A lot of time I think each fan base looks at each other pissing and moaning when in reality we are both losers. Misery loves company so to speak.
Both franchises had the most success when both were fantastic teams, success and competing against it makes everybody better.
If Edmonton is able to do some damage, it may provoke ownership and management to quit messing around.
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The difference is the attitude towards the “luck” they have had. They act like they’ve gotten all those 1st overalls because they somehow deserve them. And then even when they lose because they have zero balance across their lineup, they blame the refs or Bettman. The flames have had none of the luck that the oilers have had. Never had a top 3 pick, picked 4th once and 6th twice? If we had squandered multiple 1st overalls the same way, then yes I would agree with you
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05-04-2024, 07:15 PM
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#205
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Cycling76er
Wasn’t this also how The Strat caught on fire? Grease fans were far from ####ing civilized during that run.
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No it wasn’t how the strat caught in fire. That happened in March of 2019, so not even close.
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05-04-2024, 07:18 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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05-04-2024, 07:22 PM
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#207
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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05-04-2024, 07:32 PM
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#208
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by curves2000
I don't think I made my thoughts very clear. I am not saying that Edmonton is a model franchise or one to be copied, far from that. That being said, they have been a better team in recent years and may be able to have some additional post season success.
Personally I think the Oilers have been extremely poorly managed for a very very very long time, but so have the Flames. A lot of time I think each fan base looks at each other pissing and moaning when in reality we are both losers. Misery loves company so to speak.
Both franchises had the most success when both were fantastic teams, success and competing against it makes everybody better.
If Edmonton is able to do some damage, it may provoke ownership and management to quit messing around.
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Why do you think the Oilers are competitive? And what can the Flames management do to repeat that? Be lucky and win a lottery to land a generational player that keeps your team relevant.
Plus ownership is one thing, but Conroy and Iginla bleed red and are in management, they absolutely are trying their best to create a team that can compete and be better than the Oilers one day.
Whether the Oilers have any playoff success shouldn't matter. By the time the Flames become good enough to compete in the playoffs, the Oilers will probably be out of this McDavid window, so your hope of both teams being competitive at once is not realistic unfortunately.
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05-04-2024, 07:36 PM
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#209
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I hope for Clubber Lang's pain prediction to come through. Vancouver hopefully wins and meekly go out next round. If it was the Kesler/Burrows/Bieksa version on the Canucks....I'd hope judgment day happened in the next two weeks.
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05-04-2024, 07:54 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Rejean31
Incorrect. There were several stories that came out about violence breaking out on "the blue mile (copycats) back in 2006. I also recall pictures of women fighting with men on the street. Down here with our ladies it was shirts off for Kiprusoff. But no violence.
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Wasn't it the copper kilometer?
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05-04-2024, 09:48 PM
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#211
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
I'm not being hyperbolic when I say if the oilers were to lose in the cup final, the city would need the national guard.
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Just for the record: Canada doesn't have one of those. Strictly an Murrican institution. (Kinda like all those laws people hear about on TV and think they apply here.)
Yah, I'm picky.
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05-04-2024, 09:50 PM
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#212
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Wasn't it the copper kilometer?
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Syphilis Street.
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05-04-2024, 09:57 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Wasn't it the copper kilometer?
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NSFW because Oilers
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05-05-2024, 12:09 AM
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#214
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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So Stang, everything was well behaved on the Blue Mile in 2006, eh? This says otherwise.
Whyte Avenue in Edmonton gained national attention for its level of violence in May 2006.[7] The arrests at the Blue Mile are estimated at least 350 people through the Oilers Stanley Cup playoff run, including breaching the public peace, assaults, impaired driving, mischief, and alcohol-related offences.[8][9][10][11] This rowdy behaviour led the mayor of Edmonton, Stephen Mandel, to threaten to close down the strip: "I hope this doesn't come down to having to shut down Whyte completely...but this will not be tolerated going into the final series."[12]
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05-05-2024, 06:49 AM
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#215
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Hate to say it but Edmonton take this in 5 hard fought games. McDavid and Draisaitl can't be contained by Vancouver. With the easy travel schedule both guys will be able to rest well. Plus the League will give them certain calls. I think their d is lacking and either Dallas/Las Vegas/Colorado more or less finish them in 5 or 6, but through Vancouver I think it'll be over fast. Edmonton in 5.
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05-05-2024, 08:35 AM
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#217
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Crash and Bang Winger
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bluejays, you seem quite certain. Good on you.
Beyond your prediction, most if not all here, have concluded that if the Canucks make it to the Conference finals they shall be decimated therein.
NHL playoffs are the best of the season.
An extra element of surprise and unpredictability.
The will, wonder and excitement of hockey prevails at this time of year.
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05-05-2024, 08:41 AM
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#218
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Vancouver hopefully wins and meekly go out next round. If it was the Kesler/Burrows/Bieksa version on the Canucks....I'd hope judgment day happened in the next two weeks.
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Haha. Can you imagine these Oilers vs those Canuks w/the Sedins?
The penalty box would either be full constantly, or we'd have both teams sliding around all over the ice on their backs looking for calls with no one touching the puck.
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05-05-2024, 09:37 AM
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#219
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I get that the referees will be directed by the NHL head office to favour the Oilers, but it realistically can’t be any worse than the 22-13 power play discrepancy that Vancouver already faced against Nashville, including a 7-2 discrepancy over the final six periods and that ridiculous game management penalty after Suter scored in Game 6. (Keep in mind that the Nashville power play was second best in the NHL from the All Star break to the end of the regular season, converting on 27.2% of its chances. So, I’m sure the NHL brass is still scratching its head and wondering how the Canucks were able to overcome the zebra bias with a strong PK and win that series.)
Oh, the things Gary Bettman does to ensure Canada will never win a Cup again.
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05-05-2024, 09:44 AM
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#220
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First Line Centre
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Man I wish Demko was fully healthy. I think the Canucks would pull this off.
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