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Old 10-26-2023, 10:26 PM   #201
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This team is atrocious…

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Old 10-26-2023, 10:27 PM   #202
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We would be better off with Darryl and Toffoli than we are now with Huska, Backs, Lindholm and Hanafin.
But they still wouldn't be very good, and that's the thing. Better to bottom out and pick high
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Like who? returns in the summer were brutal
Not talking about summer, talking about pre-deadline because you said:

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Pretty hard to trade any of these guys until the deadline. Nobody has cap

The returns for certain players weren't there this Summer, but also - if we look at what Conroy said he was looking for in the Toffoli trade, perhaps Conroy was targeting trades for "now", at which point - yeah, thank goodness he didn't trade anyone else in the Summer.

The Flames also didn't try to trade Lindholm this Summer...that should be in full flight now.
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Old 10-26-2023, 10:28 PM   #204
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But they still wouldn't be very good, and that's the thing. Better to bottom out and pick high
Oh wait until Conroy trades the 1st
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Old 10-26-2023, 10:28 PM   #205
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Well, you absolutely nailed that.

Again, the approach to this season was a farce. Run back the same roster (minus your leading scorer), run back the same systems (ooooh zone defense, big whooop), and we were supposed to be excited?

Terrible work by Bean, Maloney, and Conroy. Absolutely terrible.

What was Conroy supposed to do exactly? He was dealt a truly awful hand. Treliving left him with a collection of players with no identity, we have to give him more than one summer to do something about it.

Same thing for Huska. He has a terrible collection of players. This isn’t a team. I’m furious that Kadri was signed. Hated it at the time, and he’s not changing my mind.

I haven’t watched a full game yet, and honestly, I don’t know if I will this year. I’ve got too many other things I’d rather do.

23 years I’ve been a part of this forum.. I stick around for everything but the Flames these days. I’m pissed at myself for not disabling auto renewal of Sportsnet+.
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If you want to win you have to significantly decease Huberdeau’s ice time. He’s a liability. Maybe limit him to power play.
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Old 10-26-2023, 10:29 PM   #207
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What was Conroy supposed to do exactly? He was dealt a truly awful hand. Treliving left him with a collection of players with no identity, we have to give him more than one summer to do something about it.

Same thing for Huska. He has a terrible collection of players. This isn’t a team. I’m furious that Kadri was signed. Hated it at the time, and he’s not changing my mind.

I haven’t watched a full game yet, and honestly, I don’t know if I will this year. I’ve got too many other things I’d rather do.

23 years I’ve been a part of this forum.. I stick around for everything but the Flames these days. I’m pissed at myself for not disabling auto renewal of Sportsnet+.
I'm not saying Conroy is going to continue to be terrible.

His first Summer on the job? Which we can assess, was absolutely terrible.
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Lol, Zadorov is a beauty.
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What was Conroy supposed to do exactly? He was dealt a truly awful hand. Treliving left him with a collection of players with no identity, we have to give him more than one summer to do something about it.

Same thing for Huska. He has a terrible collection of players. This isn’t a team. I’m furious that Kadri was signed. Hated it at the time, and he’s not changing my mind.

I haven’t watched a full game yet, and honestly, I don’t know if I will this year. I’ve got too many other things I’d rather do.

23 years I’ve been a part of this forum.. I stick around for everything but the Flames these days. I’m pissed at myself for not disabling auto renewal of Sportsnet+.
I'm paying monthly. I won't be paying again next month.
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Not talking about summer, talking about pre-deadline because you said:




The returns for certain players weren't there this Summer, but also - if we look at what Conroy said he was looking for in the Toffoli trade, perhaps Conroy was targeting trades for "now", at which point - yeah, thank goodness he didn't trade anyone else in the Summer.

The Flames also didn't try to trade Lindholm this Summer...that should be in full flight now.
Toffoli trade wasn't a win now move... giving him the long term contract would be the win now move
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Oh wait until Conroy trades the 1st
Apparently there is a chance that our 1st this season goes to Montreal. Even if it's a small chance, it will probably happen. Whatever can go wrong, goes wrong with this team lately.
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But his passes don't even get through most of the time. He barely even touched the puck the last couple of games. Hard to make good passes if he can't even get possession of the puck.
Go back to the power play where Kadri couldn’t shoot three times in a row or Lindholm double clutching every pass. His style doesn’t work with the forward mix and he’s trying to adapt. It’s not going well
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Man I wish we could go back a month or so and name Zadorov captain
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We're gonna need some of these players to show something.
Even if management wakes up to reality, they'll need players with decent trade value leading up to the deadline this year.

Right now, we couldn't even receive much value back to fill the cupboards.
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Apparently there is a chance that our 1st this season goes to Montreal. Even if it's a small chance, it will probably happen. Whatever can go wrong, goes wrong with this team lately.
Wait what?!?!
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Apparently there is a chance that our 1st this season goes to Montreal. Even if it's a small chance, it will probably happen. Whatever can go wrong, goes wrong with this team lately.
Next years! This one is safe but this team will bottom out next year as well
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This team is atrocious…

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I am not sure 2025 is going to be much better.
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Toffoli trade wasn't a win now move... giving him the long term contract would be the win now move
Conroy said there were offers of picks in future years. Conroy said that's not what the Calgary Flames were looking for. The key to the return was Sharangovich, a 25 year old (healthy scratch). A player they could have step in right away.

You don't trade for Sharangovich if you're planning for the future. It was a dumbass trade.
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