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Old 10-22-2023, 12:50 PM   #201
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That's literally my point

It shouldn't matter either way...play until the horn. The time and score have been laid out as factors and IMO they shouldn't be.
The league is trying to prevent what they would consider a "free" hit since the resulting penalty would not punish a team that has already lost.

It is certainly relevant.

It’s not a question of playing to the horn.

But a cheap shot at the end of a game will be penalized harder.

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Old 10-22-2023, 01:11 PM   #202
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This is why I shake my head at the NHL...


Zack Kassian - with a VERY long history of suspensions - got 2 games for horse collaring Tkachuk and pounding an unwilling opponent, including throwing him to the ice a few times. TWO!


Andersson gets 4 games with no previous history on an ill-timed hit in which Laine at least arguably lowered his body (and therefore his head) right into the hit. ZERO 'premeditation' or intent to injure.


For Andersson to have to miss the outdoor game is just insult to injury. It is simply idiotically ridiculous in my opinion.
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Old 10-22-2023, 01:42 PM   #203
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If you want to send a message, make that hit and then be ready to face the consequences.
After the hit he turned his back to the play and then turtled when knocked to the ground.
Seems like an all around dumb move.
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Old 10-22-2023, 01:49 PM   #204
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Who gets the call to replace Andersson? Hoping Poirier gets the call. 7 points in 4 AHL games so far.
I’d be happy with that. Do NOT want an Oesterle/Gilbert pairing.
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Old 10-22-2023, 01:50 PM   #205
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Guys: he left his feet to launch himself into Laines head. That's against the rules, needlessly aggressive and fully suspendable.
Again, he did not leave his feet prior to contact. That part of the hit is 100% legal.
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If you want to send a message, make that hit and then be ready to face the consequences.
After the hit he turned his back to the play and then turtled when knocked to the ground.
Seems like an all around dumb move.

This kinda highlights the hypocrisy of the NHL, doesn't it? If it was actually about player safety/concussion concerns, there would be suspensions for punching a guy repeatedly in the head, especially if it involves an unwilling participant. The Kassian bit above is a great example, and that followed a series of hits that were within the rules.
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Who gets the call to replace Andersson? Hoping Poirier gets the call. 7 points in 4 AHL games so far.
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Old 10-22-2023, 03:16 PM   #208
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Again, he did not leave his feet prior to contact. That part of the hit is 100% legal.
Fast forward to the angle starting at about the 33 second mark. Sure looks like he leaves his feet before he actually makes contact with Laine.

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4games? is he a habitual repeat offender ? i don't get it i've seen alot worse without a penalty nor suspension, glad that nhlpa is appealing it.

It's going to hurt not having him for the outdoor game. bummer!

after viewing replay looks like he was hustling towards puck and last second changed direction and went for the hit, to me he wasn't charging.
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Good! I knew he'd get something, but 4 games and no Heritage classic for a first-time offender is a joke.
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Absolutely should've been a suspension. Four seems a little heavy to me but it's not wildly outlandish.
Would have been 2 games if it happened in the first period. The predatory hit in the dying seconds of the game added 2.
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Good by the NHLPA. Almost certainly this will get reduced to probably 3 so he can play next Sunday.
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Good by the NHLPA. Almost certainly this will get reduced to probably 3 so he can play next Sunday.
I dont know, they said Andersson's agent is pressuring the PA and the NHL to get his suspension reduced...

But ruh, roh! Andersson's Agent is....Claude Lemieux.

On the one hand he knows a thing or two about dirty hits, if theres any concern, but on the other hand I'm not sure he has a ton of credibility with the League concerning dirty hits.
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I dont know, they said Andersson's agent is pressuring the PA and the NHL to get his suspension reduced...

But ruh, roh! Andersson's Agent is....Claude Lemieux.

On the one hand he knows a thing or two about dirty hits, if theres any concern, but on the other hand I'm not sure he has a ton of credibility with the League concerning dirty hits.
lol I had no idea that was his agent. I can only imagine the eye-rolling from Betman during the upcoming conversation.
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lol I had no idea that was his agent. I can only imagine the eye-rolling from Betman during the upcoming conversation.
I didnt know that either until I saw the interview with Conroy.

Maybe...maybe just let the PA do the talking and leave the Agent out of it....
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I don't know if his feet leaves the ice before he makes contact, but he is clearly launching up into the hit, and it's also apparent his feet are going to leave the ice whether he actually connects or not.
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Call me wildly cynical but I feel like McDavid missing the HC cements Andersson serving the full 4.
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If this is 4, it’s a totally new standard in discipline and NHL will certainly punish similarly in the future.

Or, no they won’t.
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