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Old 10-12-2022, 10:17 PM   #201
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It's been long ago enough that it's hard to remember to remeber the particulars, but i recall it had most of the Hallmarks of a staged shooting: initial Reports say multiple Shooters in tactical gear, which quickly shifts to the Lone Wolf narrative; shooter has been in and out of government programs their whole life; shooter never appears to be coherent and then disappears forever. I remember seeing footage of a group of shooting survivors cycling in and out of the school in front of the camera in order to look like a bigger crowd, but that may have been parkland. I also think that there are copycat events and from a distance, it's very difficult to discern what exactly is staged and what is organic, but I'm 100% convinced that staged shooting events happen in the US.

Can anyone even remember the name of the shooter? Have they received even 1/10,000 of the public anger that Alex Jones has?
How the #&@$ do staged shootings have hallmarks??????????? That's not a thing dude.
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It's been long ago enough that it's hard to remember to remeber the particulars, but i recall it had most of the Hallmarks of a staged shooting: initial Reports say multiple Shooters in tactical gear, which quickly shifts to the Lone Wolf narrative; shooter has been in and out of government programs their whole life; shooter never appears to be coherent and then disappears forever. I remember seeing footage of a group of shooting survivors cycling in and out of the school in front of the camera in order to look like a bigger crowd, but that may have been parkland. I also think that there are copycat events and from a distance, it's very difficult to discern what exactly is staged and what is organic, but I'm 100% convinced that staged shooting events happen in the US.

Can anyone even remember the name of the shooter? Have they received even 1/10,000 of the public anger that Alex Jones has?
There is something wrong with you, nothing about the shooter Adam Lanza that you said is remotely true and a fantasy line to bridge a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

The biggest problem with Lanza with his autism and various other mental afflictions is that he went pretty much untreated and wasn't in government programs.

As far as the rest, its make believe Bullsh$$ spewed by conspiracy theory idiots who make up facts that they get from monsters like Alex Jones and are too stupid to apply critical thinking and do their own F$$$$$$ research.

The fact that Alex Jones riled up the moronic easily deceived community to the point where they stalked and made the victims lives hell should actually make you embarrassed to be spewing this nonsense.

Real innocent people died, real people suffer to this day, and Alex Jones profited on it.

Just the same as Jones and Dylan Avery made a career out of frightened, overly trusting and I might say morons with Loose Change.
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It's been long ago enough that it's hard to remember to remeber the particulars, but i recall it had most of the Hallmarks of a staged shooting: initial Reports say multiple Shooters in tactical gear, which quickly shifts to the Lone Wolf narrative; shooter has been in and out of government programs their whole life; shooter never appears to be coherent and then disappears forever. I remember seeing footage of a group of shooting survivors cycling in and out of the school in front of the camera in order to look like a bigger crowd, but that may have been parkland. I also think that there are copycat events and from a distance, it's very difficult to discern what exactly is staged and what is organic, but I'm 100% convinced that staged shooting events happen in the US.

Can anyone even remember the name of the shooter? Have they received even 1/10,000 of the public anger that Alex Jones has?
Are you suggesting people volunteer to be killed, or volunteer their children to be killed? like 10 or 15 random people at a time decide to be shot to death, all arranged including finding a person prepared to shot them, by some kind of weird covert anti-gun organization that has watched tens of thousands of people be shot to death with no change to public opinion but still they continue to arrange for volunteer 8 and 9 year old's to be wasted by a volunteer shooter who presumably agrees to commit suicide after.

If you honestly think this is a real possibility you are either madder than a box of frogs or dumber than a fencepost, if elementary school kicked your ass I'd go with fencepost
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I think the suggestion is that no one was actually killed.
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I think the suggestion is that no one was actually killed.
That doesn't work, vastly too many witnesses, the only way to stage a shooting is to shoot people, I guess you could just find one person prepared to murder 10 or 20 kids, but then technically that isn't a staged shooting it's just a shooting
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That doesn't work, vastly too many witnesses, the only way to stage a shooting is to shoot people, I guess you could just find one person prepared to murder 10 or 20 kids, but then technically that isn't a staged shooting it's just a shooting
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest it was rational, just that you had what they believe wrong.
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It's been long ago enough that it's hard to remember to remeber the particulars, but i recall it had most of the Hallmarks of a staged shooting: initial Reports say multiple Shooters in tactical gear, which quickly shifts to the Lone Wolf narrative; shooter has been in and out of government programs their whole life; shooter never appears to be coherent and then disappears forever. I remember seeing footage of a group of shooting survivors cycling in and out of the school in front of the camera in order to look like a bigger crowd, but that may have been parkland. I also think that there are copycat events and from a distance, it's very difficult to discern what exactly is staged and what is organic, but I'm 100% convinced that staged shooting events happen in the US.

Can anyone even remember the name of the shooter? Have they received even 1/10,000 of the public anger that Alex Jones has?
What a ####ing appalling post.
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But dont you think thaat if it were staged by the government it would lead to a meaningful policy change?
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Old 10-13-2022, 09:53 AM   #209
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It's been long ago enough that it's hard to remember to remeber the particulars, but i recall it had most of the Hallmarks of a staged shooting: initial Reports say multiple Shooters in tactical gear, which quickly shifts to the Lone Wolf narrative; shooter has been in and out of government programs their whole life; shooter never appears to be coherent and then disappears forever. I remember seeing footage of a group of shooting survivors cycling in and out of the school in front of the camera in order to look like a bigger crowd, but that may have been parkland. I also think that there are copycat events and from a distance, it's very difficult to discern what exactly is staged and what is organic, but I'm 100% convinced that staged shooting events happen in the US.

Can anyone even remember the name of the shooter? Have they received even 1/10,000 of the public anger that Alex Jones has?
So...there's about a trillion holes to point out here, but I'll poke just one:

Sandy Hook was 10 years ago. If there were child "actors" involved, they are now at least in their teens. What do you think the odds are that every single one of them has grown up for a decade without an iota of critical thought about what you allege they were involved in?

Now I can already see you getting hung up on one of the big fancy aristocratic terms I used, so lemme help you out:

crit·i·cal think·ing
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the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgment.


You are a loser.
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if nothing else works, go watch interviews and/or testimony of those poor parents who won those cases in Texas and Connecticut. If you listen to them and still cling on to that false flag BS, you're a lost cause.
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Remember boys: you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. Faith is a powerful tool and you’ve found yourselves a true believer.
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I'm not sure we need to bother trying to logic Matata out of their position. If they haven't accepted reality when the #### peddler himself, Alex admits it's all BS, then what hope do we have? Like they guy who bull####ted you for years has said "ya, that was all bull####" and your response is "well, actually..." you are so far gone it isn't worth the words.

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A pretty good summary of things

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-hook-damages/

Interesting that they talk about the effect of Jone's personal bankruptcy in this. As well that the scum bag is fundraising based on the verdict. Also that the punative damages could significantly increase things.
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I'm not sure we need to bother trying to logic Matata out of their position. If they haven't accepted reality when the #### peddler himself, Alex admits it's all BS, then what hope do we have? Like they guy who bull####ted you for years has said "ya, that was all bull####" and your response is "well, actually..." you are so far gone it isn't worth the words.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/11154...andy-hook-case
After 9/11 I spent a while debating 9/11 truthers, but gave it up. You can't beat a moron in a debate, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Plus they never see the need to prove themselves right, or provide research or critical thinking beyond Loose Change and interconnected pictures that they bend to their own narrative

EG - There were no airplane parts on the lawn of the pentagon it was a missile.

Show then a unedited wide angle shot showing parts including a freaking engine on the lawn.

"That was planted by the government after the fact"

They demand that you prove them wrong, and then they use non facts from their buddies like

"The government used thermite on the beams to burn buildings down"

"Thermite doesn't work that way, and wouldn't burn through those beams"

"The government has top secret super thermite"

"Prove that"

"Its top secret and was designed by the Lizard people who bought down the towers"

Ok that last part is an exaggeration on my part, but prove me wrong.
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Exactly,

The issue with conspiracy theorists is that when there is new evidence to disprove it... rather than change their viewpoint the theorist then states the proof is part of the conspiracy and finds a new narrative.
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I don’t care if the award is stupidly high; he’s a vile human being who deserves whatever punishment he gets.

My hatred for Jones rivals that which I have for Trump.
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I hesitate to even ask, but I've been thinking about it and I can't figure it out. What is the point of a "staged shooting"? I don't see the upside. I mean, I get the grandstanding of a fake moon landing conspiracy, but who gains from a staged school shooting?
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I hesitate to even ask, but I've been thinking about it and I can't figure it out. What is the point of a "staged shooting"? I don't see the upside. I mean, I get the grandstanding of a fake moon landing conspiracy, but who gains from a staged school shooting?
You know the crazed gun control advocates.
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I hesitate to even ask, but I've been thinking about it and I can't figure it out. What is the point of a "staged shooting"? I don't see the upside. I mean, I get the grandstanding of a fake moon landing conspiracy, but who gains from a staged school shooting?
If we're going to engage in this incredibly, ridiculously stupid line of thinking, then I would venture that those claiming it was staged believe that it was staged by people interested in reducing american access to firearms. So the gain, in theory, would be further restrictions against possession of Firearms in the US, or potentially even a change to the 2nd amendment.

But, this is categorically stupid. There's no one reasonable who would think this is what happened, or does happen.
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After 9/11 I spent a while debating 9/11 truthers, but gave it up. You can't beat a moron in a debate, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Plus they never see the need to prove themselves right, or provide research or critical thinking beyond Loose Change and interconnected pictures that they bend to their own narrative

EG - There were no airplane parts on the lawn of the pentagon it was a missile.

Show then a unedited wide angle shot showing parts including a freaking engine on the lawn.

"That was planted by the government after the fact"

They demand that you prove them wrong, and then they use non facts from their buddies like

"The government used thermite on the beams to burn buildings down"

"Thermite doesn't work that way, and wouldn't burn through those beams"

"The government has top secret super thermite"

"Prove that"

"Its top secret and was designed by the Lizard people who bought down the towers"

Ok that last part is an exaggeration on my part, but prove me wrong.
Sadly, for these scenarios, that seems like it happens all the time.
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