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View Poll Results: Should Alberta Seperate From Canada?
Yes 76 43.93%
No 97 56.07%
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:38 PM   #201
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Revolution is the main way a group of citizens within a country form a separate country without aid from outside nations.
If you compare nations that seceded through revolution and nations that seceded through peace (and, yes, there are many examples of this--most British colonies, for example), I think you will find that the instances of revolution reflected a history of armed conflict (which, in a cyclical kind of way, further fuels the resolve to secede).

There has been zero history of armed conflict between Alberta and anyone else, so I think the idea of Alberta secession necessitating revolution isn't really historically supported.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:23 AM   #202
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The conservative comment is interesting. I've heard a few people mention that, as though it'd only be hard core conservatives wanting separation.

Ideology is a symptom, not a cause. Conservatives hoping separation is the gravy train that will finally get them some political clout are sadly mistaken. It'd never fly as a 'conservative' movement, any more than the hard left managed to take Quebec to separation. But at the same time people who think separatism is just a home for grumpy conservatives are playing a dangerous game.
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The conservative comment is interesting. I've heard a few people mention that, as though it'd only be hard core conservatives wanting separation.

Ideology is a symptom, not a cause. Conservatives hoping separation is the gravy train that will finally get them some political clout are sadly mistaken. It'd never fly as a 'conservative' movement, any more than the hard left managed to take Quebec to separation. But at the same time people who think separatism is just a home for grumpy conservatives are playing a dangerous game.
Actually by hard ideological definition the people who want seperation are very liberal and the people who don't are conservative.
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