02-20-2022, 09:30 AM
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#201
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Resident Videologist
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02-20-2022, 09:36 AM
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#202
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Honestly I think the fact that it was close on the scoreboard is making people think the Flames didn't play well last night, when in all honesty it was really one sided without finish.
They had a 16-2 edge in high danger chances for 89%. That's nuts!
The percentage is boosted by playing a team that doesn't generate a lot of high danger chances but 16 is a big number.
On this 9 game win streak they've only had more than 16 high danger chances and have averaged 11.
Mangiapane and Gaudreau score on empty net chances in the second and they likely win this 5-1 and everyone thinks they're rolling over teams.
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02-20-2022, 09:47 AM
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#203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
2021-22 9 game winning streak:
Goals: 39-14 (+25)
Shots: 331-239 (+92)
2016-17 10 game winning streak:
Goals: 38-18 (+20)
Shots: 302-317 (-15)
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Ah yes, the PDO streak that convinced Gulutzan that Bartkowski-Engelland was a competent pair
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02-20-2022, 09:48 AM
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#204
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by AC
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This is insane. What a stud.
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02-20-2022, 09:57 AM
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#205
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by direwolf
Chucky giving Gio props in his post game interview.
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He did but he also made a statement that stood out to me, "that is what you do to help teammates".
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02-20-2022, 10:02 AM
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#206
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by formulate
This is insane. What a stud.
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2 seasons in where does Chris Tanev rank in all time UFA signings for this franchise?
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02-20-2022, 10:03 AM
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#207
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Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I hope Philipp Grubauer got 1st star. What a performance by him to keep his team in it.
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A very well-earned third star.
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02-20-2022, 10:05 AM
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#208
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Franchise Player
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Unbelievable team right now, I think if they do decide to add it will be closer to the deadline and they will let this roster run win it for the time being. Being one of the fewer teams who would probably trade for a forward it’s smart to hold off and see if teams get desperate to find a suitor. Amazing team and time to be a Flames fan!!
Big test coming up too against a Winnipeg team that always seems to be a tough contest for us and it’s in the afternoon to boot. Would be another one of the many different ways to win over the streak and I’m excited to see them get going!! Go Flames Go!!!!!
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02-20-2022, 10:11 AM
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#209
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
2 seasons in where does Chris Tanev rank in all time UFA signings for this franchise?
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Number one I would think.
Up there with Hudler and Hamrlik.
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02-20-2022, 10:23 AM
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#210
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Number one I would think.
Up there with Hudler and Hamrlik.
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And Markstrom.
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02-20-2022, 10:33 AM
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#211
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Icon
I believe they're using the fire code capacity, not seating capacity, to calculate the 50%
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Game attendance shows 9,639, although I'm pretty sure they've been fudging that number since the 50% limit was put into effect...
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreport...2/GS020518.HTM
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02-20-2022, 10:34 AM
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#212
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Number one I would think.
Up there with Hudler and Hamrlik.
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I would add Glencross and place him fairly high
1. Tanev
2. Hudler
3. Glencross
4. Markstrom
5. Hamrlik
You also have the odd second runs of Tanguay and Jokinen where they were productive but I rank them below that top 5
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02-20-2022, 10:36 AM
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#213
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
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The nosebleeds are massive. It’s hard to see them from the lower areas of the arena as they are engulfed in shadow and a distinctive stench, but if those are largely empty because people have moved down, it makes a huge difference.
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02-20-2022, 10:39 AM
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#214
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I would add Glencross and place him fairly high
1. Tanev
2. Hudler
3. Glencross
4. Markstrom
5. Hamrlik
You also have the odd second runs of Tanguay and Jokinen where they were productive but I rank them below that top 5
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Markstrom will be on the list, I would think. But with 4 1/3 seasons to go he needs to bank more calendar years to be there.
Tanev at less dollars and less term is already making a top five case even if he slides a bit.
Hamrlik was only two years in Calgary too ... which I guess should put him with Tanguay and Jokinen more than Hudler.
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02-20-2022, 10:40 AM
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#215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I would add Glencross and place him fairly high
1. Tanev
2. Hudler
3. Glencross
4. Markstrom
5. Hamrlik
You also have the odd second runs of Tanguay and Jokinen where they were productive but I rank them below that top 5
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Where does Engelland fit in?
Pretty savvy pick up as well as a guy this team was severely lacking with toughness and net front presence.
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02-20-2022, 10:45 AM
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#216
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I think Tanev tops that list, I'm super happy with Markstrom, and getting a top tier goalie in free agency is ... pretty rare.
But Tanev is unbelievable, he just makes a million smart little plays every night, and he works really hard on top of it. He doesn't make it look quite as easy as Lidstrom used to, but nobody is scoring when Tanev is on the ice, that's kinda the long and the short of it.
I think it's difficult to appreciate defensive play, there's no single "right thing to do", no measurement like getting a goal for the forwards. It's like "Oh, yeah, I didn't see that guy fall down and get scored on." A little less tangible.
Gio was more versatile, but Tanev is a better defender, night in night out. And anyone he's paired with jumps in metrics and performance, that's not a fluke.
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02-20-2022, 10:48 AM
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#217
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Where does Engelland fit in?
Pretty savvy pick up as well as a guy this team was severely lacking with toughness and net front presence.
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Probably in that 6-10 range. In a similar vein, Bobby Boughner was a good signing (though perhaps overpaid) for a bad team that desperately needed leadership.
I think the top 5ish are fairly obvious and then you get into the next tier with shorter stints and/or less impactful guys. In that grouping I would include Engelland, Boughner, Tanguay, Jokinen, Dave Gagner, Dave Lowry, Owen Nolan, Brendan Morrison. Probably missing some guys.
You also have Freddie Brathwaite in there somewhere.
I can't find a definitive list of historic UFA signings for the franchise. Would be interesting to see which ones we are missing.
EDIT: Might be a fun off-season activity to rank.
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02-20-2022, 10:49 AM
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#218
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I would add Glencross and place him fairly high
1. Tanev
2. Hudler
3. Glencross
4. Markstrom
5. Hamrlik
You also have the odd second runs of Tanguay and Jokinen where they were productive but I rank them below that top 5
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I'm not going to quibble with the order of the list, but Glencross...
You have to consider the 'deliciousness factor' of having almost literally stolen him from the Oilers.
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02-20-2022, 10:49 AM
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#219
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#1 Goaltender
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Couldn't watch the game last night as we had a dinner party...but followed the 3rd period secretly on my phone (you know...."wife" secrets LOL). Watched the game afterwards - Flames were unlucky not to score more, but this time the goalie WAS actually pretty damn good,, rather than the Flames just blowing their chances over and over. Good learning game. Can we make it 10?
In Sutter we Trust.
Last edited by taxbuster; 02-20-2022 at 11:50 AM.
Reason: WPG next, not the road yet!
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02-20-2022, 10:49 AM
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#220
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Where does Engelland fit in?
Pretty savvy pick up as well as a guy this team was severely lacking with toughness and net front presence.
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I'd want to throw in a vote for Gelinas somewhere- I remember being at a cabin in Manitoba with grainy radio reception when I heard the news- he had a shorter (but albeit impactful) tenure than some of the others but was signed in the prelockout era where Flames rarely nabbed anyone of note
of course not the conversation we are having but the Flames may have had as good a history as anyone in signing college or undrafted free agents- St Louis, Giordano, Otto, Macoun, Roloson, Patterson etc etc
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