Official available and protected lists

[Robbob]

Went through the sim the first time just selecting players and ended up over the cap. Took Baily, Gourde, Bishop, Gio, Dadonov, Domi, Drouin, and Zucker as some bigger contracts. Bit a tougher exercise than I thought to get through with a bunch of cap space left over.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Yes, and I'm saying that reason doesn't work, because the Kraken have no incentive to lower their price to something the Flames should consider paying.

It all boils down to opportunity cost. There is no opportunity cost in not making a side deal if there is no side deal that both sides can agree on.

Are you arguing Seattle should take Gio? Or someone else?

If they take someone else, why in the world wouldn’t they extract a draft pick from Treliving? He’s ready to give them one I believe.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

If they take someone else, why in the world wouldn’t they extract a draft pick from Treliving? He’s ready to give them one I believe.

I'm saying he shouldn't give them anything, and it's not dead certain that they should take Giordano anyway.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Okay, here's my stab at a draft. I'll try to provide some reasoning throughout. Cap hit was right around $74 million, so about $7 million to spare for a good free agent signing. I only have 3 players over 30 years old in this draft.

Forwards: I started by focusing on the center ice position and then filled in the wingers based on the best fit, whether it be an offensive player or role player. It was surprisingly hard to find a halfway decent center, so it seemed like Ryan Johansson was the best option for a de facto #1 center. Yeah, it's a risk, but there is almost nothing else out there to build around, even for a free agent. I like Gourde as a possible 2nd line center, interchangeable with Domi if he plays center again. I think Kerfoot is a great #3 who could be #2 if the other guys don't work out. Tierney is a perfect #4 center. Here is my lineup with cap hits and drafted team included.

Domi-Johansson-Eberle
(CLB-$5.3-1yr)-(NSH-$8-4yrs)-(NYI-$5.5-3yrs)
Ritchie-Gourde-Donskoi
(BOS-RFA)-(TBL-$5.17-4yrs)-(COL-$3.9-2yrs)
Hathaway-Kerfoot-Appleton
(WSH-$1.5-2yrs)-(TOR-$3.5-2yrs)-(WPG-$900K-1yr)
Nieto-Tierney-Merkley
(SJS-$850K-2yrs)-(OTT-$3.5-1yr)-(NJD-RFA)

Extras: Lemieux (LAK-$1.55-1yr), Gauthier (NYR-$775K-1yr)

Defense: I couldn't pass up on Giordano as a captain and anchor on defense. They'd be stupid not to take him. This was the group that I worked on after I picked the goalies and centers. Lots to choose from, but I wanted to balance experience and talent with youth and potential. I think De Haan is a solid defender, as is Miller, and I added Gostisbehere for the necessary offense from the back end.

Giordano-De Haan
(CGY-$6.75-1yr)-(CHI-$4.55-1yr)
Gostisbehere-Miller
(PHI-$4.5-2yr)-(BUF-$3.875-1yr)
Kulak-Stecher
(MTL-$1.85-1yr)-(DET-$1.7-1yr)

Extra: Lyubushkin (ARI-$1.35-1yr) or Fleury (ANA-$1.35-1yr)

Goalies: This was the first position I settled on. I started with the assumption of drafting Driedger and signing him based on solid rumors. Then I wanted a veteran to play in tandem just in case Driedger didn't work out, so I took Bishop who hopefully will be fully recovered, but if not? I have DeSmith as another veteran option.

Driedger (FLA-UFA)
Bishop (DAL-$4.9-2yrs)
DeSmith (PIT-$1.25-1yr)

Farm: I wanted to go for some of the highest possible talent available for the farm system to start with. Lind jumped out to me, as did Bean, and yeah, even Tyler Benson from Edmonton seemed like a good prospect to pick up, but also because I thought it would be fun to take the only decent forward in their system (lol). Also, the Oilers have almost nothing of value on their roster to take, so I had to go with that (same thing with Vancouver).

Forwards: Kole Lind (VAN-RFA), Tyler Benson (EDM-RFA)
Defense: Jake Bean (CAR-RFA), Vince Dunn (STL-RFA)
Goalie: Kaapo Kahkonen (MIN-$725K-1yr)

Here's the best thing about this roster...there's very few players signed beyond this year. Most of the top 6 will be around for a couple years, which will allow the younger prospects or draft picks to have time to develop in to top players. Defense is a concern beyond this year, but there are some good young players to build around, and maybe you re-sign 1 or 2 vets for a year or two to fill out the lineup. Goalie is very well set with Driedger as a starter and Kahkonen developing behind him.

Basically, see what players work and get rid of the rest and develop from within. More importantly, trade a bunch of veteran expiring contracts at the trade deadline next year for more futures and draft picks.

That's what I would do anyway. Bear in mind, this doesn't take into consideration any trades or side deals that could emerge. This was a straight exercise in just the draft.

[cam_wmh]

This may have been mentioned in this or the E=NG threads, by why doesn't Francis sign Smith for $1m x 2.

And just completely bone the Oilers.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Carey Price may miss significant portions of next season with hip injury/surgery. Hence Montreal's gamble.

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https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/seraval...ion-selection/

I find it funny that the two big names that the Canadiens leave exposed both supposedly have huge health question marks going forward.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I'm saying he shouldn't give them anything, and it's not dead certain that they should take Giordano anyway.

Now I understand what you are saying. So you’re of the school of thinking that one year of Gio has the same or less value as one year of option B. Which I’m not even certain what that is. Presumably a guy that was on waivers last year.

IMO Gio has value. To the Flames, Seattle and a good number of teams around the league.

If Seattle picks a guy like Kylington without extracting anything from Calgary, it’s a huge win for us. And a big miss for Seattle.

[greyshep]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

This may have been mentioned in this or the E=NG threads, by why doesn't Francis sign Smith for $1m x 2.

And just completely bone the Oilers.

No thanks, I want them to rely on a 40yr old goalie.

[topfiverecords]

You don’t force Edmonton to have to make smarter choices.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Now I understand what you are saying. So you’re of the school of thinking that one year of Gio has the same or less value as one year of option B. Which I’m not even certain what that is. Presumably a guy that was on waivers last year.

In the abstract, no. With Giordano's cap hit, maybe.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Okay, here's my stab at a draft. I'll try to provide some reasoning throughout. Cap hit was right around $74 million, so about $7 million to spare for a good free agent signing. I only have 3 players over 30 years old in this draft.

Forwards: I started by focusing on the center ice position and then filled in the wingers based on the best fit, whether it be an offensive player or role player. It was surprisingly hard to find a halfway decent center, so it seemed like Ryan Johansson was the best option for a de facto #1 center. Yeah, it's a risk, but there is almost nothing else out there to build around, even for a free agent. I like Gourde as a possible 2nd line center, interchangeable with Domi if he plays center again. I think Kerfoot is a great #3 who could be #2 if the other guys don't work out. Tierney is a perfect #4 center. Here is my lineup with cap hits and drafted team included.

Domi-Johansson-Eberle
(CLB-$5.3-1yr)-(NSH-$8-4yrs)-(NYI-$5.5-3yrs)
Ritchie-Gourde-Donskoi
(BOS-RFA)-(TBL-$5.17-4yrs)-(COL-$3.9-2yrs)
Hathaway-Kerfoot-Appleton
(WSH-$1.5-2yrs)-(TOR-$3.5-2yrs)-(WPG-$900K-1yr)
Nieto-Tierney-Merkley
(SJS-$850K-2yrs)-(OTT-$3.5-1yr)-(NJD-RFA)

Extras: Lemieux (LAK-$1.55-1yr), Gauthier (NYR-$775K-1yr)

Defense: I couldn't pass up on Giordano as a captain and anchor on defense. They'd be stupid not to take him. This was the group that I worked on after I picked the goalies and centers. Lots to choose from, but I wanted to balance experience and talent with youth and potential. I think De Haan is a solid defender, as is Miller, and I added Gostisbehere for the necessary offense from the back end.

Giordano-De Haan
(CGY-$6.75-1yr)-(CHI-$4.55-1yr)
Gostisbehere-Miller
(PHI-$4.5-2yr)-(BUF-$3.875-1yr)
Kulak-Stecher
(MTL-$1.85-1yr)-(DET-$1.7-1yr)

Extra: Lyubushkin (ARI-$1.35-1yr) or Fleury (ANA-$1.35-1yr)

Goalies: This was the first position I settled on. I started with the assumption of drafting Driedger and signing him based on solid rumors. Then I wanted a veteran to play in tandem just in case Driedger didn't work out, so I took Bishop who hopefully will be fully recovered, but if not? I have DeSmith as another veteran option.

Driedger (FLA-UFA)
Bishop (DAL-$4.9-2yrs)
DeSmith (PIT-$1.25-1yr)

Farm: I wanted to go for some of the highest possible talent available for the farm system to start with. Lind jumped out to me, as did Bean, and yeah, even Tyler Benson from Edmonton seemed like a good prospect to pick up, but also because I thought it would be fun to take the only decent forward in their system (lol). Also, the Oilers have almost nothing of value on their roster to take, so I had to go with that (same thing with Vancouver).

Forwards: Kole Lind (VAN-RFA), Tyler Benson (EDM-RFA)
Defense: Jake Bean (CAR-RFA), Vince Dunn (STL-RFA)
Goalie: Kaapo Kahkonen (MIN-$725K-1yr)

Here's the best thing about this roster...there's very few players signed beyond this year. Most of the top 6 will be around for a couple years, which will allow the younger prospects or draft picks to have time to develop in to top players. Defense is a concern beyond this year, but there are some good young players to build around, and maybe you re-sign 1 or 2 vets for a year or two to fill out the lineup. Goalie is very well set with Driedger as a starter and Kahkonen developing behind him.

Basically, see what players work and get rid of the rest and develop from within. More importantly, trade a bunch of veteran expiring contracts at the trade deadline next year for more futures and draft picks.

That's what I would do anyway. Bear in mind, this doesn't take into consideration any trades or side deals that could emerge. This was a straight exercise in just the draft.

I think you did a good job, but perplexed by taking on a useless RyJo owed a huge cap hit for 4 years. He’s terrible. One of the worse boat anchors in the NHL.


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[blender]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

This may have been mentioned in this or the E=NG threads, by why doesn't Francis sign Smith for $1m x 2.

And just completely bone the Oilers.

Francis will need to pay Smith a lot more than that.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

In the abstract, no. With Giordano's cap hit, maybe.

Gio is far more valuable, at his cap hit, than any other player they could select from the Flames. Treliving seems willing to pay something to keep him.

If Seattle doesn’t want him, they’d be foolish not to take him up on it.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think you did a good job, but perplexed by taking on a useless RyJo owed a huge cap hit for 4 years. He’s terrible. One of the worse boat anchors in the NHL.


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As I said, there’s nothing else close to resembling a top line center. I’m not a fan of his, but you need somebody to fill that role in the short term. I am guessing they will draft their future top line center and they will need 4 years for him to reach that potential. Hence why I don’t consider his contract that big of a risk. Especially if the cap goes up.

[Mr.Coffee]

Crazy that Tuuka Rask is available. Could be a great starter actually, he was pretty damn good for Boston this year and in the playoffs even at his older age. Plus comes in at a significantly smaller cap hit than Price and then you could nab a guy like Drouin or Danault from Montreal. So many good players out there.

[eddly]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Farm: I wanted to go for some of the highest possible talent available for the farm system to start with. Lind jumped out to me, as did Bean, and yeah, even Tyler Benson from Edmonton seemed like a good prospect to pick up, but also because I thought it would be fun to take the only decent forward in their system (lol). Also, the Oilers have almost nothing of value on their roster to take, so I had to go with that (same thing with Vancouver).

Jonah Gadjovich is the player to take from Vancouver.

15 goals in 19 games last year in Utica.

As a Canucks fan, I hope he clears.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Crazy that Tuuka Rask is available. Could be a great starter actually, he was pretty damn good for Boston this year and in the playoffs even at his older age. Plus comes in at a significantly smaller cap hit than Price and then you could nab a guy like Drouin or Danault from Montreal. So many good players out there.

Is Rask not a free agent?

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Crazy that Tuuka Rask is available. Could be a great starter actually, he was pretty damn good for Boston this year and in the playoffs even at his older age. Plus comes in at a significantly smaller cap hit than Price and then you could nab a guy like Drouin or Danault from Montreal. So many good players out there.

Didn't Rask announce his retirement?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Crazy that Tuuka Rask is available. Could be a great starter actually, he was pretty damn good for Boston this year and in the playoffs even at his older age. Plus comes in at a significantly smaller cap hit than Price and then you could nab a guy like Drouin or Danault from Montreal. So many good players out there.

Crazy?

He is retired, and if he decides to return, he’s made it clear he is playing for Boston or no one.

Default is a UFA.

Drouin has been on the block to be given away, no takers yet. Negative value.

You might need to spank that fact checker of yours.


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[bax]

Rask said he would only play Boston