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Old 09-20-2018, 11:04 AM   #201
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Dube/Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik
Lazar-Hathaway

I love it
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:21 AM   #202
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Not this year (due to the China group) but he did last year and I think lots forget that.

Do you really need more viewing time to see if he's better than the Lazar/Peluso/Hathaway's playing with the main group? I'd argue he'd be best on that 3rd line RW with Bennett and Jankowski leaving Hathaway to play a 3b/4th line role which is what he should be.

Competition or not you can clearly see the kid is oozing confidence (which is key) and the hockey sense is lights out the best of our local squad thus far in camp. Either way I think he's going to be a solid every day NHL'r but I dont agree with this whole "prove it next week" mentality.

Last years rookie camp and pre-season he was our best forward
This years rookie camp and pre-season he's been our best forward

He wasn't selected to go to China so you cant hold that over his head, he was asked to stay behind and make the most of it and he's done just that. He's doing what he's been asked and yet people keep saying he's not yet proven himself. He doesn't get to choose who the other team dresses, he just has to worry about showing what he's got.

At some point you have to let these kids swim, you can just keep asking for them to prove their worth. When will it end?

Either way he's going to be around until the end of camp lets get that straight, I'm pulling for him to be on the opening day roster because I think he's shown he deserves to be there over a few of our slotted "NHL" guys once again.
Agreed. You can’t ask someone to stay behind and do their best Brock Boeser imitation and then not give him a spot. What happens if VANCOUVER sent Boeser to the AHL maybe he not as confident as he is now. This has to be up there with Johnny and Tkachuk’s rookie and training camp performances. I believe he has been the first star in his last 3 games that is pretty exceptional.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:03 PM   #203
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I think no matter what, he gets his 9 games.

Or does that even apply in his case?
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:04 PM   #204
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Why does 9 games matter?
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:05 PM   #205
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Why does 9 games matter?
I thought it burnt a year off his ELC
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:07 PM   #206
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Pretty sure that only applies to players who can be returned to a CHL team.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:07 PM   #207
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I thought it burnt a year off his ELC
In this case, since Dube will be 20 years old this upcoming season, whether he plays in the AHL or NHL, a year will be burnt on his contract, so the 9 game tryout doesn't really apply.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:54 PM   #208
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Can't be 9, 19 is taken.. 29? 39? bah, that's Otto and Gilmour (or Engelland and Chiasson)

Here's my pick for when not if he makes the team

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Old 09-20-2018, 01:01 PM   #209
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#8 #17 and #22 are also available.

I like #8 for Dube.
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it needs a 9
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:04 PM   #211
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Lankow comarisons last night and #22 is available....
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:12 PM   #212
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Yeah, Daymond Langkow's first three seasons weren't the greatest though...

79gp 15g 28p
68gp 8g 22p
78gp 14g 33p

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=11397

Looks pretty similar to someone else who currently plays for the Flames doesn't it?

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Old 09-20-2018, 01:25 PM   #213
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I think it goes without saying that he needs to keep it up so it doesn't need to be stated in the question. I look at the question as if he keeps it up, do we make room for him this season or still start him in the AHL.
The thread title is: "Does Dube make the team?"

And the answer, (IMO, and as Bingo stated), is that making the team is a few steps away. He has taken the first step by dominating against his peers. The next step is against stiffer compensation. Then full rosters. If he keeps impressing at those levels then he definitely makes the team. Even if it doesn't happen for a few games.

But it has to play out one step at a time.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:35 PM   #214
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Yeah, Daymond Langkow's first three seasons weren't the greatest though...

79gp 15g 28p
68gp 8g 22p
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=11397

Looks pretty similar to someone else who currently plays for the Flames doesn't it?

Daymond Langkow is not analogous to Sam Bennett. He was a 5th overall pick. It's different.
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Did you mean to quote me ? I didn't say anything about Gaudreau...
NHL competition in regular season games... Gaudreau was sat and had he played another 6 games like his first 6 he would have had some AHL time.

Really big test getting to play against NHL competition when the games mean something.

Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett and Tkachuk got their chance as the Flames did not have many better options at forward.

add in Neal, Lindholm, Ryan and Czarnik and the Flames do not have a spot to put Dube and see if it turns out well.... which is what they did with the last 4 top prospects.
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:10 PM   #216
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True, but the Cancks also had several veterans and 7 of their usual top 10 prospects in the line up (Demko, Gaudette, Juolevi, Lind, Gadjovich, Dipietro, Palmu) and yet, were still schooled by the Flames’ top prospects.

Obviously it’s just 1 game. But still nice to see the league’s 29th ranked farm system (the athletic) beat the #2 farm system handily.
Handily indeed. The Canucks #2-in-the-world prospects might impress some—on paper. But they played really poorly on wednesday. Horribly, in fact. Not to take anything away from Dube. He was excellent.
Ha Ha Stupid Canucks.
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:14 PM   #217
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:40 PM   #218
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I'd say the flames are closer to middle of the league for prospects, realistically. The forward group, namely Dube, Phillips, Mangiapane, Foo, Gawdin are all underrated, especially looking at where they are ranked on a lot of lists (some not even on them) and guys like Zavgorodniy have upper echelon skill. Seems like most coming in saw the system as having a few defense pieces, a couple goalie projects and that's it. But as we can see there's quite a bit more in the pipeline. Props to the management and scouts for continuing the trend of strong drafting after the first round since 2011.
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:43 PM   #219
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I really like Dube & I am pretty sure he's going to be a really good player for you folks. He's also got a great personality and is a very likable kid. This is my opinion as a 'Nucks fan.
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:51 PM   #220
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I don’t think the Flames have much in the junior cupboards but we still have a very strong pro system imo. Dube looks like he is going to play in the league sooner than later and hopefully has top 6 potential down the road. I also think that Mangiapane will break through and play at least a couple years in the NHL. I also like the potential Foo brings.

On the back end we still have 3 solid young pros that hopefully will be pushing for spots in a couple years.

Hathaway, Lazar, and Kulak should be feeling worried about their spots.
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