Christian Schools Bring Suit Against UC

[Patek23]

I'm not neutral, it is possible to be neither and not be caught in the middle. I care because the science backers come off as arrogant and that they got it all figured out, but the truth is that none of us know shinguard in the grand scheme of things.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Sep 1 2005, 07:39 PM
I'm not neutral, it is possible to be neither and not be caught in the middle. I care because the science backers come off as arrogant and that they got it all figured out, but the truth is that none of us know shinguard in the grand scheme of things.

ok..Ill use my best Marge Simpson impersonation...Hommmmmeeeeeeeeeeyyyyy!

If you are not a Christian/Religious/Spiritual/Scientific/Atheistic/Agnostic/Non or pro Theist....then what are you? Is that you Gorbachev?

[Patek23]

Originally posted by Cheese+Sep 1 2005, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cheese @ Sep 1 2005, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flaming Homer@Sep 1 2005, 07:39 PM
I'm not neutral, it is possible to be neither and not be caught in the middle. I care because the science backers come off as arrogant and that they got it all figured out, but the truth is that none of us know shinguard in the grand scheme of things.

ok..Ill use my best Marge Simpson impersonation...Hommmmmeeeeeeeeeeyyyyy!

If you are not a Christian/Religious/Spiritual/Scientific/Atheistic/Agnostic/Non or pro Theist....then what are you? Is that you Gorbachev? [/b][/quote]
lol, I don't know, I'm me, I'm inividual. I'm not required nor would I want to be lumped in with a group. I'm a free human I can do whatever I want which is the beauty of not being commited to anything (other than school and a job, which puts me on a short leash).

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer+Sep 1 2005, 07:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flaming Homer @ Sep 1 2005, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

ok..Ill use my best Marge Simpson impersonation...Hommmmmeeeeeeeeeeyyyyy!

If you are not a Christian/Religious/Spiritual/Scientific/Atheistic/Agnostic/Non or pro Theist....then what are you? Is that you Gorbachev?

lol, I don't know, I'm me, I'm inividual. I'm not required nor would I want to be lumped in with a group. I'm a free human I can do whatever I want which is the beauty of not being commited to anything (other than school and a job, which puts me on a short leash). [/b][/quote]
OHHHHHHHH!! a Humanist! Perfect!

marks another chalk tick on the blackboard!

[Patek23]

Nope. Like I said I believe in living as properly a possible but I don't feel bound too that. I just do it because I believe that everyone should be a good person. I am sure in my mind that there is a super natural force, not so sure about the heaven thing or going somewhere when we die. But hey, if there isn't at least I will have lived a happy life.

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Sep 1 2005, 04:58 PM
Nope. Like I said I believe in living as properly a possible but I don't feel bound too that. I just do it because I believe that everyone should be a good person. I am sure in my mind that there is a super natural force, not so sure about the heaven thing or going somewhere when we die. But hey, if there isn't at least I will have lived a happy life.

This is where the religion folks would demand how it is you know the difference between good and bad.

Where did you get your morals without a moral compass guiding you?

Cowperson

[Patek23]

Jesus told me


But seriously it does't take a rocket scientest to figure out hurting=bad helping=good, simple as black and white.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Sep 1 2005, 11:24 PM
Jesus told me


But seriously it does't take a rocket scientest to figure out hurting=bad helping=good, simple as black and white.

hmmmm Maybe for you...whatabout guys like the BTK killer? He was a righteous upstanding citizen...church going...God fearing...yet somehow he missed the boat?

[Patek23]

IMO it's something wrong with his head, not like a handicap. But he's missing a few important parts. Maybe my thoughts and beliefs aren't for everyone?

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Sep 2 2005, 02:14 PM
IMO it's something wrong with his head, not like a handicap. But he's missing a few important parts. Maybe my thoughts and beliefs aren't for everyone?

oH cmon Homer...we all want to know whats in your head! LOL

[Bobblehead]

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I read an article today that is relevant.

One side can be wrong

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Bobblehead@Sep 9 2005, 07:44 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I read an article today that is relevant.

One side can be wrong

It sounds so reasonable, doesn't it? Such a modest proposal. Why not teach "both sides" and let the children decide for themselves?

<sigh> ya sure...they can make reasonable decisions...dpendant who is teaching them.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Cheese+Sep 10 2005, 08:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cheese @ Sep 10 2005, 08:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobblehead@Sep 9 2005, 07:44 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I read an article today that is relevant.

One side can be wrong

It sounds so reasonable, doesn't it? Such a modest proposal. Why not teach "both sides" and let the children decide for themselves?

<sigh> ya sure...they can make reasonable decisions...dpendant who is teaching them. [/b][/quote]
C'mon Cheesie, read the whole thing!

Speaking of... Richard Dawkins (not Dawson) writes pretty good books. Or at least the one I read was good. It's called "River out of Eden" and it's pretty good. If I believed in this creationism/ID business I'd feel pretty deflated after reading it.

[Cube Inmate]

Originally posted by 89revival@Aug 31 2005, 11:44 AM
The unreligious mind needs to have full blown proof in order to get behind it fully. To a religous thinker, God proves his existence and creation to us every day simply through us being able to breathe, walk, think, and having a conscious etc....

It always amazes me how cocky humans get regarding our explanation (evolution)regarding how things work when we've only been developing theories regarding our origin for what 60 years? Not much time in the grand scheme.......

Those things you've mentioned...breathing, walking, thinking, having a consciousness...those prove MY existence, not God's existence.

Which seems cockier to you?

-Purporting to know that humans exist because of evolution, or
-Believing that the world was created to YOU could have a life.

Pretty clear which belief is more self-important.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Cube Inmate+Sep 12 2005, 03:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cube Inmate @ Sep 12 2005, 03:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-89revival@Aug 31 2005, 11:44 AM
The unreligious mind needs to have full blown proof in order to get behind it fully. To a religous thinker, God proves his existence and creation to us every day simply through us being able to breathe, walk, think, and having a conscious etc....

It always amazes me how cocky humans get regarding our explanation (evolution)regarding how things work when we've only been developing theories regarding our origin for what 60 years? Not much time in the grand scheme.......

Those things you've mentioned...breathing, walking, thinking, having a consciousness...those prove MY existence, not God's existence.

Which seems cockier to you?

-Purporting to know that humans exist because of evolution, or
-Believing that the world was created to YOU could have a life.

Pretty clear which belief is more self-important. [/b][/quote]
so IF the unreligious mind needs full blown proof...then the religious mind needs ?...nothing? Someone to tell them? ...a book that says so?....yo mamma?

[MarchHare]

Originally posted by Cheese+Sep 10 2005, 08:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cheese @ Sep 10 2005, 08:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobblehead@Sep 9 2005, 07:44 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I read an article today that is relevant.

One side can be wrong

It sounds so reasonable, doesn't it? Such a modest proposal. Why not teach "both sides" and let the children decide for themselves?

<sigh> ya sure...they can make reasonable decisions...dpendant who is teaching them. [/b][/quote]
It's funny that Bush wishes to see both evolution and creationism (using the less-inflammatory moniker "Intelligent Design") in the classroom and allowing students to make up their own minds, but when it comes to sex education, the only acceptable curriculum is abstinence-only. Teaching about birth control and methods to reduce the risk of contracting STDs are strictly taboo. We wouldn't want our children to make informed decisions about sexuality after hearing both sides of the issue, now, would we?