Survivor 31: Second Chance

[CaptainCrunch]

I really want a survivor season that strictly finds the angriest bitterest first eliminations in the history of the game.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I have a sneaking suspicion the final three are going to be:

Abi
Fishback
Cierra

Each of whom would have starved to death in the first 20 days had it not been for the actions of their teammates. If I wanted to watch a bunch of people sitting back on a chair or hammock trashing each other, i'd watch one of those "Real Housewives" shows my wife tapes.

Abi gets my vote out of those three.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I really want a survivor season that strictly finds the angriest bitterest first eliminations in the history of the game.

I still think they should do a season with people like:

Philip
Shambo
Naonka
Dan
Rodney
Ciera
etc

along with a group of people who, on the day before the game started:

stopped smoking;
stopped drinking; or
stopped an otherwise addictive activity,

each of which leads to irritability through the cold turkey withdrawal.

It might turn into carnage though

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

along with a group of people who, on the day before the game started:

stopped smoking;
stopped drinking; or
stopped an otherwise addictive activity,

each of which leads to irritability through the cold turkey withdrawal.

It might turn into carnage though

That's what happened to Shane Powers and he attributes his outbursts to it. Seeing as he provided entertainment, I'd be up for that idea :P

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

That's what happened to Shane Powers and he attributes his outbursts to it. Seeing as he provided entertainment, I'd be up for that idea :P

Was that the guy who bummed a smoke off someone when they went on a reward? The look on his face was hilarious when he smoked it right down to the filter.

That would be a great idea. "Addiction Island" here we come! You get a tent on a remote beach with no access to your heroin dealer.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Was that the guy who bummed a smoke off someone when they went on a reward? The look on his face was hilarious when he smoked it right down to the filter.

That would be a great idea. "Addiction Island" here we come! You get a tent on a remote beach with no access to your heroin dealer.

The reward challenges would be epic.

"Do you want to know what you're playing for?"

A bunch of strung out hollow faced shivering zombies nod

"This bag of black tar heroin"

"For todays challenge you have to pick 800 pennies off of the ground, walk across the tightrope. Do this rope maze and get the key to open the chest, inside the chest is a gun. The last man standing or woman wins reward"

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Wait, what just happened tonight??

Spoiler!

Fish had 2 votes and split them? And he went home? I guess he was trying to have the votes in case of an idol, but wow that came back to bite him. Ouch.

[Weitz]

Awesome 2 hour episode!

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Wait, what just happened tonight??

Spoiler!

Fish had 2 votes and split them? And he went home? I guess he was trying to have the votes in case of an idol, but wow that came back to bite him. Ouch.

Spoiler!

He thought he had the votes to stay. 5 votes against him prior tribal... so he thought there might be 4 against him this time so he steals the obvious vote against him (Joe) meaning that there would be three max... my guess is that Spencer was supposed to vote for Abi. That way if Joe had an idol Abi would go home on the revote, if Joe didn't have an idol then Joe goes home on the revote.

So to answer your question "what just happened tonight??"... Spencer flipped is what happened.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Spoiler!

He thought he had the votes to stay. 5 votes against him prior tribal... so he thought there might be 4 against him this time so he steals the obvious vote against him (Joe) meaning that there would be three max... my guess is that Spencer was supposed to vote for Abi. That way if Joe had an idol Abi would go home on the revote, if Joe didn't have an idol then Joe goes home on the revote.

So to answer your question "what just happened tonight??"... Spencer flipped is what happened.

Spoiler!

Wonder if Fishbach will be asking himself "if I had taken Spencer on the reward challenge, would I still be in the game?" Personally, I think he'd still be gone.

Joe survives one immunity loss, likely won't happen again. Great episode.

[mile]

Spoiler!

What a crazy two hours...

Stephen's game completely unraveled - he had no idea how much Spencer was working against him for both episodes. He trusted Spencer enough that he was confident in splitting the votes, tell him about his advantage, and go for the 3-3-3 split at the second tribal but that cost him. Spencer deserves a lot of credit, he still kept the trust of Fish and his alliance (even though he voted against them at the first tribal) while plotting his demise.

Joe who has been immune for the entire game, stays when he becomes vulnerable. That's unbelievable.

Wentworth with another idol in her pocket. I think her and Jeremy are the favorites to win.

I loved that reward challenge in the second episode, completely different from anything I've seen before.

This season has been fantastic.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Yeah, I guess he thought Spencer and him were tight. Or tight enough not to get screwed over. Just seemed strange to split his votes, but I guess it makes sense if he thinks Spencer is on his side. Gotta hurt.

Been a great season.

[CaptainCrunch]

If Joe wins the next challenge, one of the two ring leaders in Spencer or Jeremy are gone.

If I was in that tribal and I saw Jeremy handing over an idol to saw an ally I would be thinking hard that he had another idol and I would try to gut him soon.

[Johnny199r]

Fishbach may be the dumbest player I've ever seen on this show.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

Fishbach may be the dumbest player I've ever seen on this show.

Spoiler!

Yeah, I don't get all the Fish love. Never was a fan and felt like he had tunnel vision on getting out Joe. How do you claim to be such a knowledgeable player of the game and then play the advantage like that, not to mention telling so many people about what it does.

Funny that we've seen two bad voting examples. The put all your eggs in one basket that sent Savage home thanks to Wentworth's idol, and then the not putting all your eggs in one basket when being able to steal a vote away from the guy you're trying to get out and wind out going home yourself.

[mile]

With all the recent idol plays, it's understandable to me why Fish wanted to split votes - in case Joe had an idol (which was probably very realistic). If he trusted his allies enough (which he did), splitting was a no brainer. The misplay wasn't with what he did with the advantage, it was wrongly trusting Spencer. What would have happened if he decided to take him on reward instead? We'll never know.

He probably saw how Dan put all his eggs in one basket with his advantage last season and didn't want to do the same.

Fish does a Survivor podcast with Rob Cesternino which I am a fan of, I guess that's why I was more invested in how he did this season. He did way better than I expected, and played really hard(whether good or bad) - so in a way he got some redemption from his first time, he didn't want to play passively and lose in the finals again - even if it meant flaming out early.

[WhiteTiger]

Just popping in quickly without looking to let everyone know that I'm on Nights for the next two weeks, so will be watching the episode around Friday morning and updating the main post around then as well.

[GreenLantern]

That was a million dollar reward for Stephen, wow just wow. He was screwed from the start, if he didn't take Jeremy he would have blown up, if he didn't take Tasha he wouldn't have been able to rebuild that trust and bond with her. He read Kimmi right though, she was the only one out of the 3 he could leave at camp that would still do his bidding. He did however make the mistake of under estimating Spencer. That is a win worthy move right there by Spencer imo, the most pivotal vote of the season to date.

Stephen is a victim of his own thought process. You watch him at tribal and he is analyzing every response as it happens in his head, cross referencing and spitting out his computation. The problem is that like a Corsi Stats addict you can't over analyze things. You need to trust your instincts and go with the flow of it, it always takes a little luck to get through. There is no formula to winning Survivor, especially not against such a talented cast. As someone said already, he tunnel visioned on Joe and was blind to what was going on around him.

I really hope Spencer wins at this point, he has clawed and scraped his way back into this game and is emerging as a massive threat. Basically anyone besides Abi or Kimmi could win and I wouldn't be upset. Because it is pretty clear that for players like Keith or Tasha to make the finals and/or win at this point they would need to make a win worthy move and thus would be deserving. I do secretly hope that Abbi makes the final 3 though just to watch her crash and burn and quite possibly slit someones throat on live TV.

[CaptainCrunch]

And that's why nobody will take Spencer to the end now.

Right now, if I'm running the game, I make sure I get Abbi in the final three, and Keith probably, because he's been the classic coat tail rider.

I for sure don't take Wentworth, Joe, Jeremy or Spencer and put them in front of the Jury, they've played very well and would win on merit alone.

[Weitz]

I don't get why you would want to get rid of Joe. I mean unless you had ZERO confidence you could win an immunity, its an easy vote later in the season to get rid of him. I doubt he would win out and guys like Jeremy and Spencer should use him as a meat shield.