YLYL Thread and other things...

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

See, this is what I'm worried about. Every comment in CalgaryPuck being scrutinized for any possible negative connotation towards anyone because it might offend someone.

To be fair, a few of them went too far too long. It's not anyone's fault certain areas are catching up right now.

Hopefully, once a certain re-classifcation and understanding of what's ok and what isn't, we'll be back to a state of normal again.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by Daradon

To be fair, a few of them went too far too long. It's not anyone's fault certain areas are catching up right now.

Hopefully, once a certain re-classifcation and understanding of what's ok and what isn't, we'll be back to a state of normal again.

I hope so.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Because nothing insults a heterosexual man more than questioning his manhood?

Laugh.

Posts like this make me question whether this account is a long-form performance art project.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by GGG

As for the women of edmonton they should continue to be insulted in the same way we insult the men of edmonton. It might be insensitive but it isn't sexist.

No it's sexist. We don't talk about fat men with bruises on their thighs. It's insulting a woman or group of women based on their perceived physical shortcomings. Personally I don't actually care I just think it's going to be in interesting to watch this unfold, determining what's acceptable and what's not. Although I have to say the justification people use for having half naked people in their avatars crack me up the most. Are these pictures really necessary or 'all inclusive'?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

No doubt. I'm assuming we will see the end of insulting the women of Edmonton as well. The way they are mocked is more offensive than 90% of went on in YLYL or the rest of the site in general. Also this is presumably the end of avatars of scantily clad women... or men.

I don't know. Aren't we pretty equal-opportunity offenders when it comes to women and men from Edmonton? We don't mock them on the basis of being women. We mock them on the basis of being from Edmonton. Although maybe I haven't caught the more flagrant comments.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

No it's sexist. We don't talk about fat men with bruises on their thighs.

No, "we" talk about their sweatpants and greasy mullets. The comments about the men of Edmonton are at least as negative as the comments about the women of Edmonton and are just as much based on their physical appearance.

[Flash Walken]

I'd just like to say as a man that I had a problem with the thread.

Someone mentioned it earlier, a lot of subtext here that it was 'women whining and complaining' and getting their way over the majority of men.

Well, I'm a man and I didn't like the thread either.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

I hope so.

Me too. You are right, it'll probably be weird for a while, and messy, but it doesn't mean it's not worth doing. I think the female members were right in bringing up these issues. Figuring out the new 'lines' is going to be a process. And that's not just for sexism, but for speech in general.

I do have faith in the mods and the forum users in general though that it won't become too overblown. It's about respect, for everyone. We all just need to try and think a little more before posting.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Ugh. Because they play like girls. Non-physical, no fighting, no hitting. Which is how women's hockey is played. And why women don't play in the NHL. So sexist.

Really? Are there not women who can play a physical brand of hockey? I would think the reason there aren't women in the NHL has more to do with their size than their physicality or intensity. Are there not men's leagues all over Europe that play hockey where there's much less fighting and hitting?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ae118

"What It feels Like For A Girl"

[Spoken:]
Girls can wear jeans
And cut their hair short
Wear shirts and boots
'Cause it's OK to be a boy
But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading
'Cause you think that being a girl is degrading
...

LOL thanks for that. I actually did laugh out loud. You realize there are genetic differenced between the male and female species don't you? Maybe I missed the point in time where the human race became asexual? It's like some of you people are in denial that men and women are not the same.

[jammies]

There's also the point that inclusiveness stops at Red Deer going north and somewhere around Cranbrook going west. Should CP kowtow to the slavering peasants of Edmonton or the shrieking rabble of Vancouver? Never!

PS: Except for oilers_fan. That guy's ok, if misguided due to being brought up in a toxic environment of glory days syndrome.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

LOL thanks for that. I actually did laugh out loud. You realize there are genetical differenced between the male and female species don't you?

That's really too bad. For you, and for everyone that doesn't come from the same place of privilege that you do.

Much like 4chan's response to Emma Watson's recent UN speech, the reaction only goes to further the original point.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by gargamel

No, "we" talk about their sweatpants and greasy mullets. The comments about the men of Edmonton are at least as negative as the comments about the women of Edmonton and are just as much based on their physical appearance.

Making fun of women for being fat is the same as making fun of a man with no fashion sense? Personally I'm not offended but you've got to think someone is. What if a woman from Edmonton wanted to come here and read some of that stuff? Doesn't seem very inclusive to me.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ae118

That's really too bad. For you, and for everyone that doesn't come from the same place of privilege that you do.

Much like 4chan's response to Emma Watson's recent UN speech, the reaction only goes to further the original point.

I'm not from a place of privilege. I'm from a place of science. You people not take biology?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not from a place of privilege. I'm from a place of science. You people not take biology?

Oh dear God.

[Regulator75]

Perhaps we should now report everything and anything that we the people now find offensive on CP.
Click the button and let the mods moderate.

Avatars, sigs, posts etc.

Hopefully with will lead to less bitching and whining in the threads.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not from a place of privilege. I'm from a place of science. You people not take biology?

No men and women are equal in every way. Anything a man can do, a woman can. I kindly remind the women I work with of this when they ask my help to do some heavy lifting.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not from a place of privilege. I'm from a place of science. You people not take biology?

You didn't understand my point (and you've been editing your responses after my replies).

I'm not talking about biology. Of course men and women are different. What's your point? That it's not demeaning to call someone a girl in a derogatory way because on average, women aren't as strong as men? If that's your argument, I'm not sure what to say, other than to offer condolences to any women in your life.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

No men and women are equal in every way. Anything a man can do, a woman can. I kindly remind the women I work with of this when they ask my help to do some heavy lifting.

What's your point here exactly? No one is saying men and women are equal physically. We're saying that one shouldn't be treated as inferior to the other.

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

I don't think I am being a hypocrite...

Although I risk being being consumed by your thresher of moral outrage, I'd like to point out that you are, in FACT, a hypocrite.

If you really meant the things you said, you would never have had that avatar in the first place, let alone state that you will wait to be TOLD to take it down.

I hold your opinions and actions in the same place as the women who speak out against gender bias, sexism, misogyny, etc, etc....and then run to the theater to see Magic Mike and post about it on fB.


Having said all that, I don't care one way or another if the Powers That Be decide to be 'more inclusive' and tear down the YLYL thread. I don't come here for that.