Survivor 29: San Juan del Sur - Blood vs Water - Pool and Discussion

[WhiteTiger]

Also, is this the first time it's been an all-female Final 3?

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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Also, is this the first time it's been an all-female Final 3?

No season 24 (Survivor One World) had one as well. I'm sure there are others as well.

edit: season 16 (Fan vs Favorites) had one as well.

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If Natalie doesn't win it'll be a travesty.

[WhiteTiger]

And...Nat wins it!

Damn, at least my choice was second.

Was hoping to go 2/2 in the contest.

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The right person won. I thought the jury was going to be bitter, what a relief.

My choice was second as well - funny, I completely forgot about that.

Edit: Also noticed that Alec's mouth never closed once during tribal.

[Parallex]

Huh, how about that a Twinnie won Survivor... and I'm actually happy about it!

[killer_carlson]

bah!

Natalie deserved to win, no doubt, but I had Baylor and Keith in my pool so I thought for sure at least one would make it to the jury.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Yahooooooooooo! I think this is the first time I picked the winner in the CP pool.

She did deserve it, though. Some huge moves and played it pretty smart. Also was always a threat in the challenges. Would have been a complete joke if Jacklyn won it.

Reed was pretty rough on Missy. Not sure where that came from, pretty uncalled for.

[CaptainCrunch]

Nat was awesome this year, and I liked her a lot better without her twin, its almost like she completely grew up without her sister.

Well deserving final three. Baylor is very hot. Not a great season but not terrible.

[Jacks]

Even with 2 players in the final 4 I'm happy to lose this pool. Natalie was by far the deserving winner, there have been so many horrible bitter jury votes, they got this one right.

The fact that they didn't vote Natalie out at final 4 proves the other 2 didn't deserve to win this game, clueless.

[WhiteTiger]

Yeah, while I would have rather have seen Jaclyn win because she was 'mine', I am happy to see Natalie win it. She played a pretty good game. I mean, she was able to convince people she had "accidentally" screwed up something as important as a vote, and have them BUY it.

[GreenLantern]

Natalie deserved to win out of the final five, but I think Keith also deserved it. He did it all by himself, I know his social game sucked, but he was a constant threat in challenges and how often do we say that about a 53 year old man?

At the end of the day the right person won. I also agree about Natalie growing up without her twin. She was a lot easier to take this season on her own, and although I still find her quite smug, I could actually stand her.

I think there is an argument to be made for Jaclyn, we watched her and John bicker back and forth about every decision they made. And they made what, 3 ? game changing votes in a row. That has to count for something. I think that sometimes people get tunnel vision and only focus on the fresh wounds that happen close to the end. If you take a step back and look at the big picture then Jaclyn actually played a good game. Reed, who appears to be one of the biggest fans of the show, saw this and gave her his vote. Jaclyns mistake was not making her role in everything more public and giving John all the face time with the wheeling and dealings.

Jeremy seemed bitter at the final tribal and at the reunion. He seems to think himself a master of the game and to me it seems like he blames his mistakes on plays made by others. Jeremy, Keith isn't built for this game? How come he lasted what, 6 or 7 more votes than you did? How many individual immunities did you win? People say that he wasn't voted out because he wasn't a threat, bullcrap. Bullcrap I say! Sometimes playing to fast to hard is a mistake in Survivor, Jeremy made that mistake and he should own it.

Overall the season gets a 6.5/10 because of the finale. Reed's speech was awesome, there were a lot of subtle things I picked up on in the edit that he nailed on the head.. although I wish he could have directed some of it to the brat that is Baylor.

[squiggs96]

I understand we have the luxury of sitting on a couch and are only privy to the TV edit, but wouldn't Natalie have been safe taking Baylor and Missy to the final three? By splitting the couple out, Missy gets one vote. By having Baylor on the jury she has the opportunity to try and influence the jury. Granted neither were that likeable, but they could have run into a problem of those two splitting votes if they were a better couple. I think Natalie would have been unanimous against those two. I thought John might have been able to sway some jury members for Jaclyn. I'm really happy Nat won, but would have been happy had Keith won as well.

I really enjoyed that they didn't show that crappy 15 minute segment where they walk along the fallen torches and talk about each one as if they care. Besides the recap entire episode (not done in a while), it's my least favourite thing on Survivor.

Jeremy's a dbag for how he talked about Keith. I don't understand why he thinks he's so good at the game. I'm glad he tried to influence the jury for Nat in the final speech, but I'm not sure saying "She straight up balled", was the right tactic to try and convince a bunch of southern white guys. I think we see Keith back for a second show at one point.

I don't get how Missy thought she was so strong. She broke her foot, and that sucks, but she didn't do anything for the final 6 days. She competed in one challenge, and sat out the rest. She was carried to and from everything, yet acted like she was a force of nature and it was heroic. I'm glad Reed gave his speech the way he did, and I'm even more happy that he didn't back down from it on the finale. Missy was a waste of space this season. Even Keith wouldn't vote for her to win, and he seemed very annoyed during the final tribal at Nat.

How many people on the finale just had to sit there and didn't get to say anything? I think it was five. That's funny to me.

I'm excited for the next Survivor. Easy prediction: white collar doesn't win. In very few situations will a jury of blue and no collar people award $1M to a white collar person, who already has money.

[CaptainCrunch]

I am looking forward to a new concept in Blue Collar vs White Collar vs No Collar. We could see the first murders in Survivor history as a bunch of shiftless lazy hipsters sit around arguing about who discovered what band before it was cool until they beat each other to death.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I understand we have the luxury of sitting on a couch and are only privy to the TV edit, but wouldn't Natalie have been safe taking Baylor and Missy to the final three?

Would have been too risky at final 4 if she had voted Jaclyn out. If Keith had won final immunity, which seemed likely, Baylor and Missy would have voted her out 100%. At least with the couple split up she had a pretty good chance at making final tribal.

[Komskies]

A satisfying end to a pretty good season. It's one of the rare occasions that you can say without a shadow-of-a-doubt that the right person won. Nat made all of the big moves at the right times and reaped the rewards. I have to say, I was rooting for Keith was well, if only to watch him fumble and stumble his way through a final tribal speech. I loved the way Reed tore into Missy at the final tribal, she was totally deserving of it.

Jaclyn proved that she wasn't worthy of winning the moment she decided to keep Nat in the game over Keith. Keeping Keith around would've at least given her a shot at winning. Keeping Nat eliminated that chance completely.

The next season seems interesting enough I suppose. I always like when they bring in an entirely new cast. With the different collars you should at least get a wide array of personalities and intellect levels.

[Johnny199r]

Don't understand why Jaclyn voted out Keith instead of Natalie. Oh wait, she was a ditz who cried all the time and acted like she was in high school.

She got what she deserved.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

According to the jurors last night at the reunion Keith would have won if Natalie was voted out. Either way, Jacklyn wasn't going to win.

[dino7c]

getting to the final three doesn't mean you were close

Missy, Jacklyn, has no chance...Keith came closer to winning it

[Barbecue]

I dont get all the hate on Missy/Baylor. Reed came off as juvenille and petty with that wicked witch rant.
Missy and Baylor seemed like bystanders in the game but what did they do to deserve all of this?