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Old 10-11-2014, 12:32 PM   #201
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When I was my biggest and strongest, I never exceeded a 45 minute weight training session. It was more about intensity.
That's what I've been doing, too. My workouts last an average of 35-40 minutes. I find that if you actually work out instead of checking the phone, fiddling with music, watching a news blurb, chat up a friend/someone else at the gym, etc...that 'your' workout time drops considerably.

But then...I just discovered today that a bare barbell has weight (and apparently, not an insignificant weight, either).

For savemedrzaius' workout, I'd do a set of each, then rest 1-2 minutes, then do a set, rest 1-2 minutes, etc. But I also work out in a gym that isn't very busy, so I can set everything up I need at the start, so it's pretty easy to go from one exercise to the next quickly.
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The bar weighs about 45lbs.
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:55 AM   #203
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Easier said than done for people who have a food addiction/eating disorder. It's like trying to tell a 20 year pack-a-day smoker to "just stop smoking and stick with it!". It takes immense willpower for a person to change their lifestyle in a complete 180 after years and years of terrible habits.
I had a good year and half of just eating junk; everyone around me was calling me fat though I was never obese, felt sluggish mentally and physically.

Just decided to get my ass up and get back to where I was before; what made it easier I had a friend who was into body building and training. So we would go to together, and it just became a habit over time, apart of my regular routine.

Seeing that upper peck and abs coming in Also just feel great mentally from increase of healthy fats; and cutting out the beers (alchohol in general).
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Old 10-12-2014, 02:38 PM   #205
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Its not even about always eating healthy, being healthy and working out. Just knowing in the back of your mind that even if you have a bad day, bad week or even a bad month...you still need to get back into it.

If you keep that up it slowly turns into something you just do all the time without thinking because the habit has been formed.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:33 PM   #207
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Tore my rotator cuff

Sucks not being able to lift
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:34 AM   #208
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My car was broken for a long time and working 2 jobs made it impossible to go the gym. Going to go back for the first time in over a month, can't wait. Deadlifts and squats are the best.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:41 PM   #210
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I love squats and love watching people load up 300lbs and barely bend their knees
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:44 PM   #211
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worse is the people doing the good mornings curving their spines. Squats I do 180 at most currently, watched those videos with Alan Thrall; toes slightly pointed out, go down far, no knee pain, not too much weight, bend the hips first, push from the glutes and hamstrings and make sure the spine is always neutral. Man it's just such a good workout, I'm bent over huffing and puffing, sweating and in muscle pain. Nothing gets close besides deadlifts.

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:52 PM   #212
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I also love watching people try to bench way too much and only do two or three reps and done. Dude drop the weight to 125 and do a whole set.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:07 PM   #213
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worse is the people doing the good mornings curving their spines. Squats I do 180 at most currently, watched those videos with Alan Thrall; toes slightly pointed out, go down far, no knee pain, not too much weight, bend the hips first, push from the glutes and hamstrings and make sure the spine is always neutral. Man it's just such a good workout, I'm bent over huffing and puffing, sweating and in muscle pain. Nothing gets close besides deadlifts.
Curls make you pretty, deadlifts and squats make you a man (or a girl with an amazing ass).
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:32 PM   #214
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Ya, a lot of people don't really know the difference between good mornings and deadlifts as most people seem to being a mix of the two... and the amount of hip thrust some people throw in at the top of their deadlifts is scary to watch.

For me, I see the most results with less weight, full range of motion and a decent rep range of 8-12.

That said, obviously gradually lifting more and more weight is an indication of progress and increased muscle mass. The way to get there though isn't by decreasing range of motion to a ridiculous 1/2 rep. For me, nothing has given me more gains on compound movements than decreasing the number of failure sets I do. On the fundamental movements, I basically only go to failure on the last one or two sets. Going to failure on every set of every exercise is silly imo. I was basically doing this for years and came to realize it was wearing me out and I wasn't increasing in strength. The difference is maybe only 1 rep, but makes a world of difference.

A typical bench press session to start my chest workout might look like this-

135- warm up of 12, no failure
155- 12, no failure
165- 10, no failure
175- 10, partial failure
185- 8, failure

Really not a lot of weight when you compare what most people are doing, but I am huge on full range of motion with nice controlled reps. I am 6'1 with fairly long arms, so full range of motion on something like the bench doesn't necessarily mean touching the bar to my chest. My upper arms do go slightly below parallel though.

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I'm looking to start the Strong Lifts 5x5 program shortly. Really need to get some muscle back on my body and reduce the fat eventually.

I have been 5'9 180lbs from about the age of 13 to 20, while playing sports. Then 160lbs until I was 21 with a diet (eating lots, but balanced). Then up to 180lbs for 5 years, and now I am pushing 203lbs. This is some very bad mass for me, as I work too much at a desk, stress a lot, barely eat, and barely sleep.

My actions to change have been moving to a new job, focusing on me more, and starting to lift. Really looking forward to improving my health.
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I do kettle bell presses laying on a mat instead of benching. Increases balance and there is no risk of shoulder injury like with bench press. The 30 pounders are hard to balance.

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Old 12-16-2014, 08:51 PM   #217
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I also love watching people try to bench way too much and only do two or three reps and done. Dude drop the weight to 125 and do a whole set.
I don't get why people care how others are exercising. As long as they're using good etiquette, and as long as their form doesn't look like it will injure them, let them do what they want.

Everybody is different. Some may do what they do for specific physiological reasons. Do you know his goals? What if his focus is purely strength gain (ie. a powerlifter) or he's trying out a one rep max? That's like telling the person on the treadmill they are running too quickly when they are sprint training.

There's already enough judgement in gyms as it is.
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I don't get why people care how others are exercising. As long as they're using good etiquette, and as long as their form doesn't look like it will injure them, let them do what they want.

Everybody is different. Some may do what they do for specific physiological reasons. Do you know his goals? What if his focus is purely strength gain (ie. a powerlifter) or he's trying out a one rep max? That's like telling the person on the treadmill they are running too quickly when they are sprint training.

There's already enough judgement in gyms as it is.
I totally agree. Its one of the major reasons I workout at home.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:28 AM   #219
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I also love watching people try to bench way too much and only do two or three reps and done. Dude drop the weight to 125 and do a whole set.
5/3/1 program to increase strength. Personally never tried it, but a lot of the power lifters at my gym do it.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:27 PM   #220
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Well breakups lead to fit girls or whatever the saying is. Got back into the gym after taking a couple month break after breaking my collarbone and started squatting again. Ouch. After 3 knee surgeries and a broken collarbone, that sh*t isn't easy. I've been doing a lot of cardio too but having to take a step back from running because my knee is hurting quite a bit. I've been pretty lucky that between my best friend who's in the Reserves and my cousin, they've been getting my butt in the gym pretty much everyday.

Doomsday is tomorrow where I see my knee surgeon and see if we're going to go for the 4th surgery or just try injections. Obviously hoping for the latter.
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