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Old 11-22-2013, 09:11 AM   #201
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That's good. You are probably my favorite (and arguably the most level headed) poster on the site and it is always nice to hear your insight and see things from your perspective. Don't do that to me again.
Yep, Roof-Daddy's posts usually /thread for me. Says what I would have except probably more politely and with better wording.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:13 AM   #202
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Feaster is quietly making some shrewd moves here and there. Slowly earning some trust from me. And for the record this started before Burke was brought on as well.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:22 AM   #203
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Feaster is quietly making some shrewd moves here and there. Slowly earning some trust from me. And for the record this started before Burke was brought on as well.
Burke even stated that he is very happy with how Jay has positioned the team for the rebuild so far. The flames are not locked into any bad long term deals, have ample cap flexibility, contract space, and decent prospect pool.

Burke truly walked into an ideal rebuilding situation here. Kudos to Jay for getting the team set up for maximum flexibility
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:29 AM   #204
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Another target could be Tampa where they are on the edge of falling out of the playoff picture after a great start. They really need to find a couple of bodies that can step in and contribute. Backlund would be a solid fit in the middle for them and we could give them some cap relief. We would get Connolly or Panik but eat Purcell's contract. We'd likely have to ship them a RW to fill in, which means Backlund and Stempniak for Connolly/Panik and Purcell. Tampa might have to kick in a sweetener, like Dylan Blujus, a big right handed defenseman, but I think the potential is there considering their position. It is nice to have both the cap space and the contract flexibility to make some of the imbalanced deals.
Purcell is too good to be a simple cap dump from Tampa's perspective ... he's a solid top 9 guy. If Calgary or any other team eats a contract, it will be Ryan Malone for sure. He earns 4.5/year for another year after this one ... horrible contract for what he brings to the ice. He's on a line with Nate Thompson and BJ Crombeen all the time, and Tampa prefered calling up JT Brown for top 9 minutes instead of promoting Malone ... that's really all you have to know about Malone right now.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:33 AM   #205
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Burke even stated that he is very happy with how Jay has positioned the team for the rebuild so far. The flames are not locked into any bad long term deals, have ample cap flexibility, contract space, and decent prospect pool.

Burke truly walked into an ideal rebuilding situation here. Kudos to Jay for getting the team set up for maximum flexibility
I think one of the key's for the Flames to succeed with this rebuild is to ensure Burke sticks around for the next few years. I worry that the temptation of an open GM spot opening for him is enough to have him bolt before we're where we need to be
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Thanks to Jackman for being a good soldier for the Flames. Certainly always worked his arse off.

Had that great year where he scored 10, then the next year still looked pretty good but just couldn't buy a goal. This year he just looked out of step and was taking too many stupid penalties.

I think this move is what he needed and could help him reset. Also opens up a spot for the Flames.

Good luck Timmah.
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I'm very happy to see a move like this. It really does help make our team better. He just wasn't the same guy this year it seemed.

I like that Blair has earned a chance up here, I hope he brings some energy and helps kick start the work ethic again.

I have to agree that Feaster has done a stellar job at positioning this team for a solid rebuild. So far adding Burke hasn't really changed much IMO. I don't know that he has had much to say about these trades or if it was even him involved, it's only speculation.

There will be a major shake up soon, a vet on their way out. I don't think we should trade backlund though.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #208
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I think one of the key's for the Flames to succeed with this rebuild is to ensure Burke sticks around for the next few years. I worry that the temptation of an open GM spot opening for him is enough to have him bolt before we're where we need to be
I don't understand this thinking in the slightest. It's baseless. If he REALLY wants a GM job, he will open one up himself.
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I think if Burke wants to be the GM then he'd just fire Feaster like stormbad says, he'll be here as long as he wants to be and if he leaves then it's not because something else has opened up it's because he doesn't want to be here.

As for Jackman, he'll be missed..........by the other teams PP units. People are going to defend him and say there is a blind hate for the guy as he's become a whipping boy which is true but the thing is he wasn't randomly chosen. Jackman has been a terrible hockey player this year and the Flames are better off without him.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:37 AM   #210
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You guys think Burke has the authority to fire Feaster? Yeah, that's pretty funny.

The owners decide when it's time for Feaster to go not Brian Burke or he would have fired him long time ago since Burke has made it clear from the first day after being let go from Toronto his main goal is to be a GM.
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Oh boy...
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Burke is the boss of feaster and Wesbroid. He tells the team the direction to be in, probably gets paid better than a GM, has some of the best ownership in the league and is in a Canadian hockey market.

I think he's here for a long time
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I don't understand this thinking in the slightest. It's baseless. If he REALLY wants a GM job, he will open one up himself.
Yeah. It's not a stretch to say he could be the GM in waiting but at the same time he may actually grow to love his current position and in the event he decides Feaster's time is up he may hire someone else to take the job and keep managing things from afar.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:47 AM   #214
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Good foot soldier

Should have traded him in the middle of his career season two years ago. Probably could have got a second rounder.
Pretty much characteristic of all of Feaster's trades so far when dealing away a current Flames player.

I'm hard pressed to think about a single Flame he has traded away that he couldn't have dealt for more if he had used them differently (Sarich), traded them earlier(Tanguay), or at a different time (Regehr).

Blake Comeau might be the only one.
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Yeah. It's not a stretch to say he could be the GM in waiting but at the same time he may actually grow to love his current position and in the event he decides Feaster's time is up he may hire someone else to take the job and keep managing things from afar.
Have people not been paying attention to Burke's comments the last year or so?

His main goal has been to be the GM and that's what he does best. He is definitely 100% going to be the next GM after Feaster is eventually fired, if he doesn't take another GM job first.

But to say he can just up and fire Feaster because he wants to be a GM is stupid. Feaster doesn't really deserve to be fired so firing him would look fishy and stupid and would be blocked by the owners. He's not that dumb.
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Have people not been paying attention to Burke's comments the last year or so?

His main goal has been to be the GM and that's what he does best. He is definitely 100% going to be the next GM after Feaster is eventually fired, if he doesn't take another GM job first.

But to say he can just up and fire Feaster because he wants to be a GM is stupid. Feaster doesn't really deserve to be fired so firing him would look fishy and stupid and would be blocked by the owners. He's not that dumb.
Of course the owners would have final say, but i have to think if Burke tells them its me or Feaster, they pick Burke. Does not sound like anything like that is going to happen soon, so it is moot.
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Have people not been paying attention to Burke's comments the last year or so?

His main goal has been to be the GM and that's what he does best. He is definitely 100% going to be the next GM after Feaster is eventually fired, if he doesn't take another GM job first.

But to say he can just up and fire Feaster because he wants to be a GM is stupid. Feaster doesn't really deserve to be fired so firing him would look fishy and stupid and would be blocked by the owners. He's not that dumb.
Tell me more from your magic crystal ball, oh wise one.

EDIT: To expand, you're about as reliable a source on this subject as Eklund. You're taking quotes from years ago along with pure assumptions on your part and contorting them to make it sound like you have a level of confidence others should be lucky to have.

Why so sure of yourself? You don't know Burke, or the owners, or the situation. You're using old quotes to make your own assumption on what Burke really wants. Unless you're Burke, you should stop pretending like you can see inside his head. It's kind of ignorant.

Unlike you, I'm going to go ahead and base my assumptions off of his recent quotes and his job title. Try to stay up to date.

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If Burke really wanted to be a GM, I don't think he would have accepted the President's position and would still be scouting for Anaheim or whatever he was doing.

I have no doubt that this is exactly the position he wanted, and asked for. He bounced around a bit as a GM. How often are team presidents let go? Almost never.
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does anyone else think that Burke was offered the GM role in addition to President?

I think both were on the table for him, but for now he will just accept the President position.
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does anyone else think that Burke was offered the GM role in addition to President?

I think both were on the table for him, but for now he will just accept the President position.
No. If both were on the table Burke would have accepted both in a heart beat. He said when he was first offered President role he took time and consulted other people that have taken on this role. He was not sure at first if he wanted to be President.
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