Howse's contract terminated. Update: 'I don't want to play. My heart's not in it.'

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by FakenHaken

Also, doesn't he get a CHL sponsored scholarship for time spent in the WHL?

That has probably run out. Last time I checked the window the CHL leaves to use that is pretty limited.

[BlackWallStreet]

Howse just wanted to stay home and game grand theft auto all day

[valo403]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

That has probably run out. Last time I checked the window the CHL leaves to use that is pretty limited.

I believe you can play one year of pro and still keep the scholarship, but I'm not sure of that. I know a guy I had an ECON class or something with had played one season with the Chicago Wolves before heading to CIS hockey, and made the decision then as staying longer would have burned his scholarship. Whether that's currently the case I have no idea.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I am pretty sure that was voided when he signed his pro contract

http://www.whl.ca/prospects-central-...arship-program

Definitely was as he played in the AHL. Unless he earned a scholarship outside of the standard WHL player agreement.

The player agreement scholarship is designed mainly to get the kids to go to school while in the WHL in case the whole hockey thing doesn't pan out for them.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by FakenHaken

Also, doesn't he get a CHL sponsored scholarship for time spent in the WHL?

Some of those are scholarships are lost if the player signs a pro deal.

[Husky]

213 posts on a who cares prospect and on a who cares what the reason was or what he does with his life.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by Husky

213 posts on a who cares prospect and on a who cares what the reason was or what he does with his life.

214 with your stunning addition to the thread

[carom]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Money makes everything in life better. The more I make the happier I am and the more freedom I have. Nobody is saying it's the only thing, but if you can't see how financial freedom makes life better than I don't know why I would even want to spend another character acknowledging you.

Do you honestly believe that? I see lots of people that have financial security, but most of the time it doesn't equate to more freedom. If someones dream is only to make money than I feel sorry for them.

Did he go about quitting the flames the wrong way? Sure, and you can make your own assumptions about his character if you like. I respect his decision to make his own choice and glad that he is not wasting anymore of his and the flames time pursuing something he no longer wants to do. Good luck to him in his future endeavours.

[Coach]

If his original WHL scholarship has been voided by him playing pro, can he still earn a scholarship on his own merit? I can't imagine he would have a tough time finding a CIS team to take him on.

[sevenarms]

Originally Posted by MattyC

If his original WHL scholarship has been voided by him playing pro, can he still earn a scholarship on his own merit? I can't imagine he would have a tough time finding a CIS team to take him on.

He still has a couple years of CIS eligibiity so I'm not sure why he wouldn't be able to.

Can anyone recall how it worked for Jared Aulin when he played for the Dinos?

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I am pretty sure that was voided when he signed his pro contract

It's a joke all the restrictions placed on the WHL scholarships.

They use players for basically free for 3-4 years making big bucks off of these kids, and then force them to make a huge decision at 19/20/21 on what they are going to do with the rest of their lives.

You'd think they could put a 5 year eligibilty window in at the very least. the $30-40,000 that it might cost them per player in extra tuition fees is nothing compared to the money they make off these kids.

I think its borderline criminal. If I had a son with hockey talent, I would seriously be pushing them towards the NCAA over the CHL.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

It's a joke all the restrictions placed on the WHL scholarships.

They use them for basically free for 3-4 years making big bucks off of these kids, and them force them to make a huge decision at 19/20 on what they are going to do with the rest of their lives.

You'd think they could put a 5 year eligibilty window in at the very least. the $30-40,000 that it might cost them per player in extra tuition fees is nothing compared to the money they make off these kids.

I think its borderline criminal. If I had a son with hockey talent, I would seriously be pushing them towards the NCAA over the CHL.

As a 6th year Bantam coach I see this more and more, both from the kids and the parents, and I think it is a good trend.

[Alberta_Beef]

Alot of people seem to be taking this personally.

If he wants to quit, let him quit. His life, his choice. Besides I don't want a player like that in the organization.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Alot of people seem to be taking this personally.

If he wants to quit, let him quit. His life, his choice. Besides I don't want a player like that in the organization.

So...personally you don't want him anywhere in the organization?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

It's a joke all the restrictions placed on the WHL scholarships.

They use players for basically free for 3-4 years making big bucks off of these kids, and then force them to make a huge decision at 19/20/21 on what they are going to do with the rest of their lives.

You'd think they could put a 5 year eligibilty window in at the very least. the $30-40,000 that it might cost them per player in extra tuition fees is nothing compared to the money they make off these kids.

I think its borderline criminal. If I had a son with hockey talent, I would seriously be pushing them towards the NCAA over the CHL.

Completely agree... although the NCAA is a similar deal (rack up cash on the backs of athletes and then pay them nothing).

In this case - between what he's made on his pro contracts and the financial support he'd get from a CIS team he'd be better off than just going straight to university after junior. (assuming of course he finished high school and can get into a university).

[BACKCHECK!!!]

I love how this conversation concluded that: "You're burned out from 15 years of hockey and don't want to play any more? Maybe you should go to university... and play hockey."

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

It's a joke all the restrictions placed on the WHL scholarships.

They use players for basically free for 3-4 years making big bucks off of these kids, and then force them to make a huge decision at 19/20/21 on what they are going to do with the rest of their lives.

You'd think they could put a 5 year eligibilty window in at the very least. the $30-40,000 that it might cost them per player in extra tuition fees is nothing compared to the money they make off these kids.

I think its borderline criminal. If I had a son with hockey talent, I would seriously be pushing them towards the NCAA over the CHL.

True, and yet in some areas, the NCAA treats its own player-serfs even more poorly. At least in the CHL, you can go to an NHL team camp without fear of having your scholarship cancelled for some asinine reason. Players like Jankowski would benefit greatly from coming to Flames camp, practicing and playing exhibition games with the team before heading back to college.

Both systems need changes to benefit the players. But thanks to the fiasco the idiots behind the CHLPA created, they've probably taken any pressure off the CHL for several more years.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Completely agree... although the NCAA is a similar deal (rack up cash on the backs of athletes and then pay them nothing).

In this case - between what he's made on his pro contracts and the financial support he'd get from a CIS team he'd be better off than just going straight to university after junior. (assuming of course he finished high school and can get into a university).

Its not really "nothing" if the NCAA gets the player a university degree.

It looks like both systems could be improved to give the kids a better chance at successfully transitioning out of hockey if it doesn't work out but the NCAA system definitely looks to be the better of the two in this specific case.

Hopefully Howse takes some time to himself and if he finds out that at 24 that he really wants back into hockey that he then applies himself to take that long hard road back to the big show. If not, hoepfully he finds another path, like school, to do whatever he wants as an adult.

Really, we should wish him nothing but the best. He provided us a bit of hope when there wasn't any when it came to the Flames prospects and now that we have other kids to carry that torch I say that we can let Howse off the hook.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Completely agree... although the NCAA is a similar deal (rack up cash on the backs of athletes and then pay them nothing).

In this case - between what he's made on his pro contracts and the financial support he'd get from a CIS team he'd be better off than just going straight to university after junior. (assuming of course he finished high school and can get into a university).

The University degree on a free ride scholarship has some pretty significant value even though the players dont actually get paid all that much.

[mattcoco35]

This one frustrates me a bit. I understand personal problems, but what I don't understand is working your whole teens and early twenties to make it to the show, and then to decide (when closest) that it's not what you want! Sigh. Having tried and got so close only to not make it, I wish there was a player like this in front of me, because I would have made it and held on a tight as possible to the opportunity. In that light, I guess another kid is one step closer which is a positive!