Some pics from Gay pride Iceland today, one of the Mayor of Reykjavik dressed up in drag again, this time in the traditional national costume for women.
Over 90,000 people will be in attendance, 1/3 of the whole nation.
NSFW!
US Ambassador marched today, and the US embassy joined in with their support.
I applaud Russia for banning gay propaganda in public. It is the will of their people who hold traditional family values. Taking your kids to a gay parade where grown men prance around in S&M outfits is child abuse.
The law does not seem that bad anyways. You guys make is sound like they are putting gays into prison camps.
I know it is frowned against to question the mods around here. But the fact that you haven't been banned for your backwoods, racist, homophobic and straight up ignorant views is mind bottling. You are a bad human being.
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Quote from Russian state television channel under the direct control of Putin, by the channels main anchor.
Note the applause.
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"I think that just imposing fines on gays for homosexual propaganda among teenagers is not enough. they should be banned from donating blood, sperm. And their hearts, in case of the automobile accident, should be buried in the ground or burned as unsuitable for the continuation of life."
Agreed. I really wonder what would happen if all the civilized world just cut them off. I'm not extraordinarily well-versed in all the conflicts in the area, but as an Economics grad it is certainly fascinating to think about the world trade and economic effects of such a wide sanction.
Maybe they would accept a replacement of allowing us to cover their entire country in solar panels.
If it's only Canada that sat out? It wouldn't even get an asterisks. Think about if only Norway boycotted. Do you think you'd demean our medal count? Even if a country like Germany boycotted, I think you'd still take pride in each and every one of your medals.
I agree that a trade embargo would be a much more effective way of Canada making a stand and might actually make a difference (although I have no clue how much Russian/Canadian trade there is)
Right, because we all know that the men's hockey tournament isn't the biggest event at the winter olympics. Oh wait, it is the biggest event, and the defending champions wouldn't be involved. Yeah, that'd totally just get overlooked.
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Right, because we all know that the men's hockey tournament isn't the biggest event at the winter olympics. Oh wait, it is the biggest event, and the defending champions wouldn't be involved. Yeah, that'd totally just get overlooked.
I agree that it would ruffle some feathers of the hockey fans, BUT I think it would mostly be Canadian fans. The asterisk is only given by those who weren't there.
IE. If Russia had sat out last Olympics for us allowing gay marriage (no idea if the legislation coincides with the last Olympics, its just an example), and Canada won, would we as Canadians feel like it wasn't worth as much because the Russian's weren't there? I know I wouldn't care. but the Russian's might.
What if Martin St. Louis was injured the series before and the Flames ended up winning the Cup in 04, would we as Flames fans feel like the Flames didn't REALLY win? I doubt it. But Tampa might.
I've changed my mind. Boycott that shiz. HockeyCanada could send quite a message by not sending a mens team. They're pro's anyway, so they are hurt less by not going to the Olympics rather than someone who's life is as an amateur.
The reigning gold medalists in the biggest Winter Olympics event would be significant.
I agree that it would ruffle some feathers of the hockey fans, BUT I think it would mostly be Canadian fans. The asterisk is only given by those who weren't there.
IE. If Russia had sat out last Olympics for us allowing gay marriage (no idea if the legislation coincides with the last Olympics, its just an example), and Canada won, would we as Canadians feel like it wasn't worth as much because the Russian's weren't there? I know I wouldn't care. but the Russian's might.
What if Martin St. Louis was injured the series before and the Flames ended up winning the Cup in 04, would we as Flames fans feel like the Flames didn't REALLY win? I doubt it. But Tampa might.
I wouldn't, we would have won a tournament that didn't include the best possible field, it would be a sham victory.
The injury comparison doesn't hold up, that's part of the game. Does Canada get a re-do on Nagano because Kariya was hurt?
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The IOC (either the most or second most corrupt organization in sports) pretty much tells athletes and everyone else to just be straight as can be and don't piss Russia off.
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On Monday, the Russian Interior Ministry confirmed what other Russian officials have been saying for weeks: Openly gay people attending the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics, including athletes, will be arrested under the country’s draconian new anti-gay law. That law, you might recall, prohibits “homosexual propaganda” and is designed to discourage any kind of support for gay rights or even gay people.
According to an IOC spokesperson, the Olympics aren’t the place for “proactive political or religious demonstration,” anyway. Just read the fine print: Rule 50 of the Olympic charter declares that “no kind of demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda is permitted in any Olympic sites, venues or other areas.” By the IOC’s logic, gay people should be keeping quiet about their sexuality no matter what, in accordance with Rule 50. If they speak out and get arrested under Russian law—well, it’s not the IOC’s fault that they just couldn’t keep their mouths shut.
I wouldn't, we would have won a tournament that didn't include the best possible field, it would be a sham victory.
The injury comparison doesn't hold up, that's part of the game. Does Canada get a re-do on Nagano because Kariya was hurt?
No and thats the point.
We as Canadians obviously have a biased view of the Canadian team and its affect on the attitudes of the other teams. Whether the Canadians are considered the best by objectively looking at their team, that wouldn't take away from the medal winners I don't think. What if Canada was there and the eventual winner didn't have to go through Canada. Would there be an asterisk? Again, maybe in Canadian's eyes but certainly not in the winner's eyes. Canada winning gold is not a forgone conclusion, and IMO, not really anymore likely than any of the big countries winning. Goaltending could be an issue and lets not forget, Canada has not medaled in 2 of the last 4 Olympics.
To the point of the injury, OK so injuries happen. let's say for sake of the argument, that St Louis voluntarily sat out to in protest to the Flames giving up on him in his young career. Would we care? Im pretty sure Iginla would be waving his ring in St Louis face for the rest of his days, as would rest of Calgary.
I see the point and do agree than some might view it that way. But I think the potential impact is being overblown here.
I'm too young to remember the boycotts from before, but they have happened. The Soviets sat out the LA games, and maybe it hurt that one city economically, but it certainly didn't inact any sort of ideoligcal change to Communism amongst Americans or even in LA. It actually probably swung the other way with more animosity towars the other ideology. Does anyone consider any of the wins from those games to be in vain because the Soviets weren't there. I can't ever recall someone saying so.
We as Canadians obviously have a biased view of the Canadian team and its affect on the attitudes of the other teams. Whether the Canadians are considered the best by objectively looking at their team, that wouldn't take away from the medal winners I don't think. What if Canada was there and the eventual winner didn't have to go through Canada. Would there be an asterisk? Again, maybe in Canadian's eyes but certainly not in the winner's eyes. Canada winning gold is not a forgone conclusion, and IMO, not really anymore likely than any of the big countries winning. Goaltending could be an issue and lets not forget, Canada has not medaled in 2 of the last 4 Olympics.
To the point of the injury, OK so injuries happen. let's say for sake of the argument, that St Louis voluntarily sat out to in protest to the Flames giving up on him in his young career. Would we care? Im pretty sure Iginla would be waving his ring in St Louis face for the rest of his days, as would rest of Calgary.
I see the point and do agree than some might view it that way. But I think the potential impact is being overblown here.
I'm too young to remember the boycotts from before, but they have happened. The Soviets sat out the LA games, and maybe it hurt that one city economically, but it certainly didn't inact any sort of ideoligcal change to Communism amongst Americans or even in LA. It actually probably swung the other way with more animosity towars the other ideology. Does anyone consider any of the wins from those games to be in vain because the Soviets weren't there. I can't ever recall someone saying so.
If they don't they're either uninformed or foolish. Winning an event that doesn't involve the best competitors is a hollow victory. Would winning olympic basketball gold mean much if the US team didn't enter the tournament? Would Olympic swimming gold mean much if Phelps sat out the race?
I'm not going to get into a debate about the quality of the Canadian team as that's beside the point, an Olympic hockey tournament that does not include the defending champions is a sham tournament.
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