Feasters chance of staying on ....

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Ark2

So the man publicly states that he is not the man to manage a rebuild, and yet he should be given time to manage this rebuild? That is baffling to me.

I must have missed something, when did he publicly say this?

[sa226]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

Who are these "Down Goes Brown" and "Puck Daddy" guys?

And why should anyone care what they think? Honestly, just curious?

If they are truly knowledgeable or credible hockey people, would they not use real names?

Down Goes Brown from what I gather has never claimed to be and insider or knowledgeable hockey guy.

What he is however, is one of the most consistently funny guys who covers the sport. Most guys get annoying after awhile but his style of humor and quips are mostly right on point. Definitely worth a follow on twitter.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by FAN

What the hell? What bridges with other GMs has Feaster burnt? Peter Chiarelli didn't blame Feaster. Doug Armstrong likes Feaster enough to make a deal with him.

Really? Go try and make a deal with Colorado. Feaster is a joke. Chiarelli was pissed why do you think he even held a presser? If you were told you had a player and then the other GM backed out, I'd be ticked off and wouldn't want to do business with that GM ever again.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by bluck

Really? Go try and make a deal with Colorado. Feaster is a joke. Chiarelli was pissed why do you think he even held a presser? If you were told you had a player and then the other GM backed out, I'd be ticked off and wouldn't want to do business with that GM ever again.

It's a good thing you aren't a GM then. Deals are backed out of all the time. Nothing is firm until it is approved by the NHL registry with signatures attached.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

Who are these "Down Goes Brown" and "Puck Daddy" guys?

And why should anyone care what they think? Honestly, just curious?

If they are truly knowledgeable or credible hockey people, would they not use real names?

I don't think Down goes brown considers himself knowledgeable or credible.

Puck Daddy is a moron from Yahoo who seems to get credit because he is an American that follows (but knows nothing about) hockey. Not sure why anyone would care what he thinks.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I must have missed something, when did he publicly say this?

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...54&postcount=3

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I must have missed something, when did he publicly say this?

Multiple times.

Ken king has also stated this team would never rebuild either. Its hilarious to think just a few weeks ago this franchise was going for it by adding O'reilly and have no gone completely the other direction in a few days.....reeks of mass confusion and terrible management.

Worse yet, this crew is basically holding all the cards for this rebuild.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by bluck

Really? Go try and make a deal with Colorado. Feaster is a joke. Chiarelli was pissed why do you think he even held a presser? If you were told you had a player and then the other GM backed out, I'd be ticked off and wouldn't want to do business with that GM ever again.

Chiarelli was pissed at Iginla moreso than Feaster, and quite frankly who gives a rat's a** what Chiarelli says/thinks...the only reason he had a presser was the media...if the media had not been all over reporting a Bos deal being done when it hadn't there would be no presser.

People wanna blame Feaster for the Iggy trade when there's only one culprit in this deal: Jarome Iginla. If he wanted to play for Pittsburg only then he should of submitted a list of 1 team, period.

Perhaps ownership/management is to blame for giving Jarome more freedom than he should have...

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I agree. Because unlike in Edmonton, Calgary fans/media actually put pressure on the team to win.

Haven't really read this thread, but just saying I think he deserves the chance to see this rebuild through, at least for the next while anyway. They've already given him the keys, let's just see what he does with it, now that he's finally free of Darryl's mess. I hate when rebuilding teams keep shuffling GM's every couple years. That guy's got his prospects in place, and a new guy will probably have a different hockey philosophy and shun many of them, then you're back to square one all over again. Rinse, repeat.

Maybe he'll build a contender, maybe he'll blow it, I don't know. But we may as well give him the chance and see what happens. Let the man do what you hired him for, being panicky and short-leashed with him isn't going to help anything.

Feasters had 2 years, nothing panicky about canning a guy who, after 2 years, publically admits he made a massive error that cost the team a decent return on its franchise player. In any other field this would be considered gross negligence, mind you a lot of what Feaster does can be filed under the heading of gross negligence.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by Reaper

It's a good thing you aren't a GM then. Deals are backed out of all the time. Nothing is firm until it is approved by the NHL registry with signatures attached.

That's not my point at all. He was told he had a deal done and then got backed out on... That's my issue.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Feasters had 2 years, nothing panicky about canning a guy who, after 2 years, publically admits he made a massive error that cost the team a decent return on its franchise player. In any other field this would be considered gross negligence, mind you a lot of what Feaster does can be filed under the heading of gross negligence.

Isn't he a lawyer? Shouldn't he be used to doing his due diligence?

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think whether Feaster stays or not will be dependent on how the owner's view his work.

He got hired based on a plan he presented to KK and management. If the owners view that Feaster has failed in delivering his plan, then he may not survive. If there was a part in his plan that was in effect 'If the Flames do not attain a level of success by X date, then the Flames will undergo an overhaul of sorts - either a more aggressive re-tool or a total rebuild'.

Feaster is really good at talking his way out of things anyways it seems. Will be interesting to see if he gets relieved after the deadline - before the draft, after the draft - UFA day, or not at all. I bet Feaster survives this.

[Mith]

I imagine Feaster will move on this offseason. The team is being retooled, and as such he should be replaced as well. I doubt he had that much of a hand in negotiating the Bouw and Iggy deals in any significant way.

A new GM and a fresh view on this team is good, I think, especially if it's a guy that has shown he can rebuild a team.

[Jake]

I think Feaster will stay. If he wasn't going to be a part of the rebuild, you'd think Flames management would have replaced him before the deadline.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by bluck

Really? Go try and make a deal with Colorado. Feaster is a joke. Chiarelli was pissed why do you think he even held a presser? If you were told you had a player and then the other GM backed out, I'd be ticked off and wouldn't want to do business with that GM ever again.

GMs makes offer sheets knowing it will piss off the other team's GM but so what? A GMs not doing his job if he's holding silly grudges. Dallas and Vancouver made a deal and the owners hate each other. And it's not like Feaster blindsided Sherman. He tried to work out a deal, couldn't, and he signed ROR to an offer sheet. Chiarelli was pissed but he called Feaster a "gentleman" and doesn't believe the whole fiasco was on Feaster. Chiarelli isn't one of the better GMs in the league because he holds silly grudges and refuses to make deals even though it makes the team better because of some silly grudge.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Jake

I think Feaster will stay. If he wasn't going to be a part of the rebuild, you'd think Flames management would have replaced him before the deadline.

His seat started getting hot after ROR. From that time to now was about 3-4 weeks? If Flames are going to look for a replacement, they actually need to take their time in finding a new candidate (and actually do that process this time); and then the new GM would have to asses the situation from the front office, coaches, and the players. Once that's done, then he has to make a plan of what to do.

The timeframe to get him hired would likely take 1-2 weeks. Then to settle in would be a few days. Should the GM would only get a week or two to figure out what to do, and execute. That's too ask in what is a very important time period for the future of the franchise. If you're going to make moves, you want to make sure you make the right ones.

Also you have to consider that perhaps the owners aren't just considering replacing the GM, but looking for a new man to be team president. If you're going to hire a person that will pretty much control how your hockey team is going to be run for the long term, you want to take your time to find that person also.

Basically, there wasn't enough time to find a replacement that could conduct the trade deadline event once questions of management started to gain true traction.

[Wronskian]

He's done IMO. Could you imagine how much better Burke would have been the last couple weeks.

[Reign of Fire]

Anybody else think after two mediocre deals, ownership pulled reins on Feaster and stopped him from making any more major trades? I am hoping they did and that he'll be gone by end of the season.

[Dagger]

Watch him dump money into the UFA market on awful players. That's phase 2.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by FAN

GMs makes offer sheets knowing it will piss off the other team's GM but so what? A GMs not doing his job if he's holding silly grudges. Dallas and Vancouver made a deal and the owners hate each other. And it's not like Feaster blindsided Sherman. He tried to work out a deal, couldn't, and he signed ROR to an offer sheet. Chiarelli was pissed but he called Feaster a "gentleman" and doesn't believe the whole fiasco was on Feaster. Chiarelli isn't one of the better GMs in the league because he holds silly grudges and refuses to make deals even though it makes the team better because of some silly grudge.

I wasn't talking about the offer sheet. He was told he had a deal done, it's different then presenting a proposal and backing out on it.