I wonder if Phoenix would support an AHL team right away. Because, honestly, that is the only way that building ever gets any use if the Coyotes leave.
Yep, the issue Glendale has is that letting the Yotes leave doesn't get rid of their financial headache, and it may actually make it worse. Sure they're paying out $25mil, but they at least see some type of returns in the form of taxes, economic activity and other related things. Certainly not huge returns, but returns nonetheless. If the Yotes leave you lose a lot of that, and I'm not sure that it would be all that much cheaper to simply mothball the place, although I admittedly don't know how much that sort of thing would cost.
The city got itself into a terrible position from day one with that building, and now they're really left with choosing from a bad option and a worse option.
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I wonder if Phoenix would support an AHL team right away. Because, honestly, that is the only way that building ever gets any use if the Coyotes leave.
I don't know - what about college sports, concerts, wrestling, monster trucks, rodeos, expos?
I don't know - what about college sports, concerts, wrestling, monster trucks, expos?
The problem is it is all they way out in glendale. People have no problem driving there for NFL but I can't see much more then that except for concerts and maybe NCAA tournaments.
I would guess if the rink was more in the convention center part of the city like chase field they would have much better turn outs
9 non-hockey dates over the next 2 months. Unlikely enough to pay the electric bill. The tough thing for this arena is that it has direct competition in the market with the US Airways Center. No anchor tenant and competition for other events would be rough.
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9 non-hockey dates over the next 2 months. Unlikely enough to pay the electric bill. The tough thing for this arena is that it has direct competition in the market with the US Airways Center. No anchor tenant and competition for other events would be rough.
Presumably, without an NHL tenant, they should be able to book more than 9 non-hockey dates in two months. Glendale is not central, but Phoenix is a large metro area, and there should be plenty of big concert tours wanting to stop there.
I'm going to look up the event schedule at US Airways . . .
Presumably, without an NHL tenant, they should be able to book more than 9 non-hockey dates in two months. Glendale is not central, but Phoenix is a large metro area, and there should be plenty of big concert tours wanting to stop there.
I'm going to look up the event schedule at US Airways . . .
Yeah, I looked at the calendar before my comment. Three events totaling five dates in February. There were ZERO in January. Four in March.
For non-major tenant usage isn't that much worse than the Saddledome. Except that the Saddledome has 44 guaranteed dates + playoffs from the Hitmen and Roughnecks.
Without an anchor tenant, that facility would be lucky to be used 6-7 days a month. There are just too many other competing facilities in metro Phoenix.
This whole relocation to Phoenix seemed doomed from the start. US Airways arena, located in downtown Phoenix, was/is unsuitable for hockey. So it doesn't take a genius to predict that the Coyotes/Jets would have to build an arena of their own, and likely in the suburbs.
Knowing this, they still moved the team to a non-traditional hockey market in one of the hottest deserts in the world (Sonoran Desert).
Just seems like a bit too much round-hole-square-peg bashing. Maybe it's time to call this a failed experiment and move on.
This whole relocation to Phoenix seemed doomed from the start. US Airways arena, located in downtown Phoenix, was/is unsuitable for hockey. So it doesn't take a genius to predict that the Coyotes/Jets would have to build an arena of their own, and likely in the suburbs.
Knowing this, they still moved the team to a non-traditional hockey market in one of the hottest deserts in the world (Sonoran Desert).
Just seems like a bit too much round-hole-square-peg bashing. Maybe it's time to call this a failed experiment and move on.
Where do you propose that they have been moved way back when?
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What's the benefit of doing such a thing for the NHL? In the hopes that one day hockey will take off there and the team because a profitable franchise? Why would players want to sign with a team where there is no guarantee that will be their home for more than a year.
This is assuming there is at least one other viable place to move the team, ie Quebec.
For next season at least there's the benefit of holding the contraction hammer over the heads of the NHLPA during CBA negotiations.
For next season at least there's the benefit of holding the contraction hammer over the heads of the NHLPA during CBA negotiations.
Bringing out the contraction hammer would make things get real ugly quickly. Both sides would dig in to their positions, become reluctant, and seal the deal for a lockout or strike. More than likely it will be the relocating hammer.
For next season at least there's the benefit of holding the contraction hammer over the heads of the NHLPA during CBA negotiations.
Yeah as Tswwassen said that's a nuclear option. The NHLPA knows that the NHL has no desire to contract, a move like that sends the message to the market that you're in dire straights.
That's the kind of negotiation we'd see if each side sent it's favorite message board poster, as opposed to highly skilled negotiators who understand the repercussions of everything they put on the table. Although I think it would be way more fun if CBA negotiations were a massive internet flame war.
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