They have 4 passenger 747s, 2 are the all biz configuration that make the run from Houston to Africa. I think 189 are those 2 planes.
From what I can tell is an all Y plane with only a handful of biz seats, maybe they kept those empty or used them to ferry crew.
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Air Canada continues to upguage a few flights from YYZ to clear up their backlog, yesterday they sent the new 3 class 77W here (458 seats) and today we got one of the 77L's. Calgary spotter Wee_in_YYC nailed the arrival crossing in front of the moon just a few minutes ago:
On a related note I find it funny how the local media here grabbed onto WestJet chartering the 747 yet no mention is made of AC doing the same thing (just with their own metal). Perhaps AC should hire me to get the word out in these parts for them?
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WS said they had as many as 22,000 stranded passengers across the system this week, as if one 744 even made a dent! I thought they'd have it do at least 2 runs back and forth. To AC's credit, they are quick to send us heavy metal if need be; even a couple YVR cancellations and they send a 77W, let alone the absolute nightmare this week has been.
On a related note I find it funny how the local media here grabbed onto WestJet chartering the 747 yet no mention is made of AC doing the same thing (just with their own metal). Perhaps AC should hire me to get the word out in these parts for them?
I like that. I think it has to do with the unexpected. Air Canada is expected to use their fleet to clear the backlog. WestJet leases to alleviate the backlog is uncommon. Meanwhile Porter isn't (wasn't) even answering the phone and sending full planes with 6 bagson them.
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It'd be tougher for AC to spare so many widebodies in their summer schedule. WS diverts what seems like half their fleet to Caribbean flying in the winter so they have zero extra frames.
Video of an Ethiopian 767 taking off on a very short runway.
A fully loaded 767-300ER requires about 2,713 meters (8,900 feet) to take off, and the runway at Arusha Airport in Tanzania is only 1,631 meters (5,351 feet) long.
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It'd be tougher for AC to spare so many widebodies in their summer schedule. WS diverts what seems like half their fleet to Caribbean flying in the winter so they have zero extra frames.
That thought just occurred to me actually, how Air Canada would have any 77W's just sitting around that they could spare. That's one expensive plane, and if a plane ain't flying, it ain't making money.
That thought just occurred to me actually, how Air Canada would have any 77W's just sitting around that they could spare. That's one expensive plane, and if a plane ain't flying, it ain't making money.
One of the ones that operated the YYZ-YYC flight was brand spanking new, like a few days after delivery from Boeing.
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Video of an Ethiopian 767 taking off on a very short runway.
A fully loaded 767-300ER requires about 2,713 meters (8,900 feet) to take off, and the runway at Arusha Airport in Tanzania is only 1,631 meters (5,351 feet)
Why would a 767 be at Arusha airport? That's nuts. Kilimanjaro Airport is very very close, and a much better choice.
Thanks Bigtime. Figured it must've been a mistake. I was just at both those airports in August, and I would've been absolutely shocked (and scared ####less) to see that plane landing at Arusha.
Speaking of planes landing at the wrong airport Southwest decided to get into the action and landed at the wrong airport in Branson yesterday. This link is to a live feed of them preparing to fly it out:
Speaking of planes landing at the wrong airport Southwest decided to get into the action and landed at the wrong airport in Branson yesterday. This link is to a live feed of them preparing to fly it out:
The -700 is a damn rocket. The media can go stuff it with their "but can they takeoff?!"
Yeah, they don't realize how far you can push these planes to the limit, and sometimes beyond. The things are designed to operate beyond the manufacturer's specs, in case something ever goes wrong.
And yeah, the 737 can easily (and did) take off from a shorter runway. Just don't load anything on it, fly with a minimal amount of fuel, set the flaps a little lower, and off ya go.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe they use maximum braking and reverse thrust during normal landings either. In fact, I think (don't quote me on this), they normally use idle reverse, and do most of the work with the wheel brakes, to prevent wear and tear on the engines.
I imagine those pilots realized their mistake just as they touched down, and leaned on the brakes and reverse big time!
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One of the ones that operated the YYZ-YYC flight was brand spanking new, like a few days after delivery from Boeing.
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AC took three more 77W in 2013 (for 15 total) so I'd imagine it was easier to work it this winter versus last.
Huh...I hadn't been following AC's fleet situation lately, so I didn't know they had ordered that many 77W's. Are they downsizing on the A333's as well? I remember reading about the 737 MAX order to replace the A32X aircraft, and thought that was somewhat surprising. Although not shocking...Boeing probably gave them a discount after the 777 and 787 orders.
