Israel declares war on Hamas

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by _Q_

What an exhilarating take.

Rather than protesting ethnic cleansing, apartheid and colonization, arabs should really be looking at same sex marriage. That's the real issue that needs to be focused on.

Is it OK that ukraine doesn't have same sex marriage as well, or are they OK with fighting Russia instead?

Lol, it is not about sam sex marriage. Arab societies torture and imprison gay people throughout the middle east, have zero democracy, little minority rights, but the minute there is a fake Israeli bombing of a hospital the arab world protests. It is typical. Get off your moral high horse. Societies with 12th century sharia law want to call out Israel. How about the ethnic cleansing every arab country did to their Jewish communities in the 1950’s? Should we be allowed back? Should my grandparents get their house back in Morocco? Hypocrite.

500 million Arabs, 22 countries, not one has offered to take in refugees but they sure as hell can come out to protest the Jews.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Get off your moral high horse.

How's the view from Big Jake?

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

How's the view from Big Jake?

Go believe another Hamas report, still working out the ballistic report?

[Radio]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Never seen an explosion like this being caused by a rocket. There are many videos of rocket impacts from other attacks, and I didn't see any with explosion even remotely this large. Based on what about hospital attack is known at this point - which is not much at all I admit - it seems like an explosion of something, that was already in the hospital. Firearms, fuel, whatever. This explosion may have been triggered by a rocket, but also may have occured without any rockets at all.

As another poster said, if it's a failed launch it's fully loaded with fuel...increasing the blast.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Go believe another Hamas report, still working out the ballistic report?

Still lots of stuff with the report makes no sense, so yes, waiting for more information. Not going to believe anything that I hear from either side which is why I question it all. I don't trust Israel (the government and military) any more than I trust Hamas. They're both full of #### and we need to see evidence, which has miraculously disappeared. If you listen to Israel the missile was fired from a cemetery across from the hospital. Travelled away from the building for 12 seconds, blew up, then made a beeline back to the parking lot across the street 6 second later. Can we refer to this as the magic missile theory? If they had said there was a second missile that failed to launch and did the damage then it would make sense. So far, this smells like bull#### from both sides.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Still lots of stuff with the report makes no sense, so yes, waiting for more information. Not going to believe anything that I hear from either side which is why I question it all. I don't trust Israel (the government and military) any more than I trust Hamas. They're both full of #### and we need to see evidence, which has miraculously disappeared. If you listen to Israel the missile was fired from a cemetery across from the hospital. Travelled away from the building for 12 seconds, blew up, then made a beeline back to the parking lot across the street 6 second later. Can we refer to this as the magic missile theory? If they had said there was a second missile that failed to launch and did the damage then it would make sense. So far, this smells like bull#### from both sides.

lol

[Lanny_McDonald]

That's an open mind. Explains why this dispute will never get settled. Won't even consider facts.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Still lots of stuff with the report makes no sense, so yes, waiting for more information. Not going to believe anything that I hear from either side which is why I question it all. I don't trust Israel (the government and military) any more than I trust Hamas. They're both full of #### and we need to see evidence, which has miraculously disappeared. If you listen to Israel the missile was fired from a cemetery across from the hospital. Travelled away from the building for 12 seconds, blew up, then made a beeline back to the parking lot across the street 6 second later. Can we refer to this as the magic missile theory? If they had said there was a second missile that failed to launch and did the damage then it would make sense. So far, this smells like bull#### from both sides.

You have jumped to so many conclusions on this issue, with no evidence, just ones that are anti-Israel.

There's absolutely nothing about this that is complicated. There's a video showing the incident. There's photos showing the exact aftermath.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

That's an open mind. Explains why this dispute will never get settled. Won't even consider facts.

You don’t like facts, you have zero proof. I’m not going to argue with deranged thoughts.

[zunie75]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Should we be allowed back? Should my grandparents get their house back in Morocco? Hypocrite.

Can you elaborate on what you are suggesting in this part of your comment?

[Blaster86]

Not here to argue em, just here to state em.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by zunie75

Can you elaborate on what you are suggesting in this part of your comment?

Arabs ethnically cleansed their Jewish communities in the 1950’s after the creation of Israel.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...arab-countries

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Lol, it is not about sam sex marriage. Arab societies torture and imprison gay people throughout the middle east, have zero democracy, little minority rights, but the minute there is a fake Israeli bombing of a hospital the arab world protests. It is typical. Get off your moral high horse. Societies with 12th century sharia law want to call out Israel. How about the ethnic cleansing every arab country did to their Jewish communities in the 1950’s? Should we be allowed back? Should my grandparents get their house back in Morocco? Hypocrite.

500 million Arabs, 22 countries, not one has offered to take in refugees but they sure as hell can come out to protest the Jews.

You've been drinking the Israeli kool-aid for far too long dude.

Imprisoning and torturing gay people happens far less often than you would imagine.

And yes, you should be able to go back to Morocco. The majority of those nations have welcomed back their Jewish citizens anyway.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...a-fe7b139f0000

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1714673924502368425

Singh’s thought on the conflict.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by _Q_

You've been drinking the Israeli kool-aid for far too long dude.

Imprisoning and torturing gay people happens far less often than you would imagine.

And yes, you should be able to go back to Morocco. The majority of those nations have welcomed back their Jewish citizens anyway.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...a-fe7b139f0000

We all know that's not happening. There were anti-Jewish riots across the Arab world. Israeli citizens aren't abandoning the lives and nation they've built to return to historically hostile Arab and Muslim nations.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by blankall

We all know that's not happening. There were anti-Jewish riots across the Arab world. Israeli citizens aren't abandoning the lives and nation they've built to return to historically hostile Arab and Muslim nations.

Well then why even mention it? If Beninho wants to go back to Morocco, then please, go back to Morocco.

How about this? Let's make a deal, you go back to Morocco and I take your place and move to Haifa? Let's fix the problems that Israel's creation caused.

[zunie75]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Arabs ethnically cleansed their Jewish communities in the 1950’s after the creation of Israel.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...arab-countries

Right, but the part about your family being able to go back. Are you suggesting that because you feel they couldn't or cant, that the same should apply to people in Gaza? That because Jews were forced to leave, tit for tat, Arabs should face the same consequence?

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by zunie75

Right, but the part about your family being able to go back. Are you suggesting that because you feel they couldn't or cant, that the same should apply to people in Gaza? That because Jews were forced to leave, tit for tat, Arabs should face the same consequence?

I was countering the assertion that Arabs are protesting Palestinians being ethnically cleansed with the fact that their societies have already finished their ethnic cleansing of Jews so it is hypocritical. Last time I checked the Palestinian population has only increased and not declined in Gaza, West Bank, and within Israel. So i am unsure where this genocide is actually occurring. Israel gave citizenship to all Arabs who stayed within Israel borders in 1948, pretty bad way to ethnically cleanse them.

I believe the Palestinians deserve a state and have stated that several times in this thread.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I was countering the assertion that Arabs are protesting Palestinians being ethnically cleansed with the fact that their societies have already finished their ethnic cleansing of Jews so it is hypocritical. Last time I checked the Palestinian population has only increased and not declined in Gaza, West Bank, and within Israel. So i am unsure where this genocide is actually occurring.

I believe the Palestinians deserve a state and have stated that several times in this thread.

Yes but those countries are no longer ethically cleansing jews and in fact are welcoming them back. It's a choice not to go back, which is fine.

Palestinians, today, are being ethnically cleansed.

Last time I checked my calendar says 2023, not 1949.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Yes but those countries are no longer ethically cleansing jews and in fact are welcoming them back. It's a choice not to go back, which is fine.

Palestinians, today, are being ethnically cleansed.

Last time I checked my calendar says 2023, not 1949.

They are? Interesting, Arab-Israelis are being ethnically cleansed out of Israel? News to me.