[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[Poison]

Originally Posted by AndyM

The Flames moved it to Monday.

If that is the case then something else is happening.
Either an extension or they are flipping one/both.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Poison

If that is the case then something else is happening.
Either an extension or they are flipping one/both.

Or one isn’t available yet. Meh who cares.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Or it could be that the players just weren't available, having other commitments seeing as it is a Sunday.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Poison

If that is the case then something else is happening.
Either an extension or they are flipping one/both.

Or the players were on holiday or unavailable

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Majority of Panther fans like the deal for Panthers given player control through prime.

... which doesn't mean they think we lost the deal, as that control wasn't available to us. Tkachuk signing as part of the deal created value that was distributed between the Flames and the Panthers. Pretty easy for the trade to be win/win when you're creating 8 years of signed Tkachuk.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Very few GMs would be able to pull this sort of value in return with their backs against the wall, for a player who expresses their desire to move on. Another entry into the 'Things He Does Well', which is why I don't think he will be fired, nor should he be.

He is very good at trades, I would even say one of the better GMs in the league.

He has also learned his lessons in free agency. People seem to forget that Brad was a rookie GM when he took on the role here. To say he hasn't improved the team throughout his tenure would be nonsense.

If ever it doesn't work out here he won't go unemployed for long. Tree is a good GM period.

[browna]

Knowing Air Canada, Flames got a notification probably that both players were enroute, but with all the airport snafus, it was actually their luggage on the plane, with the players still out east.

[Spinach]

Once for all, Treliving has discredited the old adage that the team that won the trade is the team that got the best player.

The team that won the trade is the team that didn't deal Matthew Tkachuk to the Oilers or leafs. Him playing for Edmonton or Toronto would have been insufferable.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

He is very good at trades, I would even say one of the better GMs in the league.

He has also learned his lessons in free agency. People seem to forget that Brad was a rookie GM when he took on the role here. To say he hasn't improved the team throughout his tenure would be nonsense.

If ever it doesn't work out here he won't go unemployed for long. Tree is a good GM period.

If he has indeed learned his lessons, will be interesting to see what they do with these two pending UFA’s.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Or the players were on holiday or unavailable

Looks like Huberdeau was at a concert, so he's probably just unwinding

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by fleury

Huberdeau has done more than Gaudreau or Tkachuk, but to offer an 8 year deal to a 29 year old is such a terrible move. You don't want to handcuff yourself given the high price you'll be paying. I'd personally do 6 years at best, at $9.75/season. Takes him to 35. Can't handcuff the team in those older years especially where speed is more and more relevant. I bring the case of Tavares again for those who want a reference to an aging player paid a lot. We have to learn from all our past mistakes.

I'd rather them commit 8 years then take him into the season unsigned. Much for optionality going forward.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

Conspiracy theories are not political views.

So his theories are supposed to take away from his hockey career. I disagree with his opinions, but that doesn't mean his contribution to Flames should be ignored. It sounds like you are mad because you disagree with his opinions. Unless he commits a crime, he's entitled to his views—freedom of speech and all.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Looks like Huberdeau was at a concert, so he's probably just unwinding

= hung over

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Very few GMs would be able to pull this sort of value in return with their backs against the wall, for a player who expresses their desire to move on. Another entry into the 'Things He Does Well', which is why I don't think he will be fired, nor should he be.

I view it as a good learning lesson. Sometimes you have to trade quality to get the pieces you want. Traveling seems loyal to the players but almost losing a player for nothing and then having to make the deal at the last minute is not an ideal situation. I think he will be bettwr for it and we are lucky to come out on top.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

So his theories are supposed to take away from his hockey career. I disagree with his opinions, but that doesn't mean his contribution to Flames should be ignored. It sounds like you are mad because you disagree with his opinions. Unless he commits a crime, he's entitled to his views—freedom of speech and all.

He has freedom of speech but he is personally accountable for what he says with that speech - his legacy is just as accountable, especially when said speech is used to vocally support convicted figures who spread hate information and hate speech.

[Poison]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Or it could be that the players just weren't available, having other commitments seeing as it is a Sunday.

Then why say it for today at yesterdays presser?

[bax]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

So his theories are supposed to take away from his hockey career. I disagree with his opinions, but that doesn't mean his contribution to Flames should be ignored. It sounds like you are mad because you disagree with his opinions. Unless he commits a crime, he's entitled to his views—freedom of speech and all.

Yes, he’s entitled to his views no problem at all, just like the Flames are entitled to distance themselves as far from his as possible.

Giving him any type of platform these days would make the Flames look extremely foolish

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

So his theories are supposed to take away from his hockey career. I disagree with his opinions, but that doesn't mean his contribution to Flames should be ignored. It sounds like you are mad because you disagree with his opinions. Unless he commits a crime, he's entitled to his views—freedom of speech and all.

And corporations are allowed to make decisions for things that occur on their property and their public image also.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

freedom of speech and all.

Sure, sure... he's free to say and think all that junk... I'm also free to say that I think he's a repulsive deranged lunatic that no one of good character would or should choose to associate with.

[Swayze11]

This is a perfect thread for discussion on Theo’s views

Great work all