You have to remember that Draisaitl and McDavid are already on cap hits of ~$4 million each.
So it's not like they need to add 16 million in cap space. They probably need to add around $8 million to get those two signed.
lol, ~ $4million each as 3.4 and 3.775? I'm not sure if Chia will have the option to just round his salary down by a million, but knowing him, he might try.
You need 3 extra for Drai and 8 extra for Mcd. Those are both low end projections. I'd say you'd be safe accounting for 12 million worth of raises between those 2.
lol, ~ $4million each as 3.4 and 3.775? I'm not sure if Chia will have the option to just round his salary down by a million, but knowing him, he might try.
You need 3 extra for Drai and 8 extra for Mcd. Those are both low end projections. I'd say you'd be safe accounting for 12 million worth of raises between those 2.
I'm not sure I agree with you there. You have Draisaitl pegged for $6.4 million on the low end.
He has one 50 point season thus far. Unless he scores 75+ this year I'd see Monahan's contract as pretty much the max contract he'll receive.
As for McDavid, I think Flames fans are projecting what they want to see happen (McDavid asking for cap max) onto their expectations for his next salary.
No one has really been making asks like that since around 05/06 so I don't believe its a strong possibility. We'll see.
So 15-16 million will be needed to lock up Drai and McDavid. They currently have about 5-6m in cap space, with Ference's 3m the largest contract coming off the books after this season. Yeah that's gonna be a fun puzzle to figure out. Have to imagine one of Eberle/Tenderness will have to be moved for peanuts alike the Yak deal.
I don't think that's even close. I would put the over/under at $17.5M ($6-$6.5 and $11 - $11.5M). And I would take the over on that.
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
You have to remember that Draisaitl and McDavid are already on cap hits of ~$4 million each.
So it's not like they need to add 16 million in cap space. They probably need to add around $8 million to get those two signed.
lol
You think they are going to sign Draisaitl and McDavid for a TOTAL of $12M?
So what? $4M and $8M? Good luck with that!
I will predict the two cost $18M in total. So an extra $14M in cap space.
Edit: sorry, you said $4M EACH (which isn't true, but nonetheless, noted)
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I'm not sure I agree with you there. You have Draisaitl pegged for $6.4 million on the low end.
He has one 50 point season thus far. Unless he scores 75+ this year I'd see Monahan's contract as pretty much the max contract he'll receive.
As for McDavid, I think Flames fans are projecting what they want to see happen (McDavid asking for cap max) onto their expectations for his next salary.
No one has really been making asks like that since around 05/06 so I don't believe its a strong possibility. We'll see.
I'm not sure your thoughts on McD are true. Flames fan or not, I begrudgingly think that McD will have already proved he's the best player in the game with limited debate by the time his next contract comes around. He'll be in the same position many of the other top "future players" (like JG etc...) have been, but with one very distinct difference. He'll likely have already proven he's the best in the game, not that he's probably going to be the best in the game.
That recipe of already the best, but likely not hit his ceiling yet will equal the most high paid player in the NHL come his next contract + plus pay for his improvement if the Oilers want him long term (which they will).
Because a lot of players who were 20 and the best in the world didn't ask for that much?
McDavid isn't going to ask for even close to the max, he'd be setting himself up for failure and he knows that. A number around $11 million would make sense for him and totally not handicap the team.
That's a pretty short list of players to use for comparison. The only players to win the Art Ross Trophy while still on their ELCs are Crosby, Ovechkin, and Malkin. Only Crosby had won prior to signing his second contract (which McDavid is on pace for now).
Sidney Crosby signed his second contract on July 7, 2007, a month before his 20th birthday. This was after he won the Art Ross and Hart Trophies in his second season. He signed for a cap hit of $8.7 million per year when the salary cap was $50.3 million. That was 17.3% of the cap.
Alex Ovechkin signed his second contract on January 10, 2008, halfway through his third pro season. He was 22. That was the season where he won his first Art Ross and Hart Trophies. He signed for a cap hit a little over $9.5 million when the salary cap was $50.3 million. That was 19.0% of the cap.
Evgeni Malkin signed his second contract on July 2, 2008, less than a month shy of his 22nd birthday, after his second pro season. He finished second to Ovechkin for the Art Ross the previous season, and won the Art Ross and Conn Smythe Trophies the following year. He signed for a cap hit of $8.7 million when the cap was $56.7 million. That was 15.3% of the cap.
Arguably, if Malkin had been playing for any other team in the league, he wouldn't have been limited by Crosby's $8.7 million cap hit, and if Crosby had been born on any day other than August 7, 1987, he might have not limited himself to the $8.7 million cap hit either.
If the cap goes up to $75 million next year, the Oilers should be happy if they can get McDavid signed for under $13 million.
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I do think the Oilers find a way to keep Draisaitl and McDavid but it likely results in a classic Chiarelli like deal where Nuge gets traded for peanuts
I do think the Oilers find a way to keep Draisaitl and McDavid but it likely results in a classic Chiarelli like deal where Nuge gets traded for peanuts
What is he worth though?
Before this season he was worth only getting a guy like Dumba.
That's a pretty short list of players to use for comparison. The only players to win the Art Ross Trophy while still on their ELCs are Crosby, Ovechkin, and Malkin. Only Crosby had won prior to signing his second contract (which McDavid is on pace for now).
Sidney Crosby signed his second contract on July 7, 2007, a month before his 20th birthday. This was after he won the Art Ross and Hart Trophies in his second season. He signed for a cap hit of $8.7 million per year when the salary cap was $50.3 million. That was 17.3% of the cap.
Alex Ovechkin signed his second contract on January 10, 2008, halfway through his third pro season. He was 22. That was the season where he won his first Art Ross and Hart Trophies. He signed for a cap hit a little over $9.5 million when the salary cap was $50.3 million. That was 19.0% of the cap.
Evgeni Malkin signed his second contract on July 2, 2008, less than a month shy of his 22nd birthday, after his second pro season. He finished second to Ovechkin for the Art Ross the previous season, and won the Art Ross and Conn Smythe Trophies the following year. He signed for a cap hit of $8.7 million when the cap was $56.7 million. That was 15.3% of the cap.
Arguably, if Malkin had been playing for any other team in the league, he wouldn't have been limited by Crosby's $8.7 million cap hit, and if Crosby had been born on any day other than August 7, 1987, he might have not limited himself to the $8.7 million cap hit either.
If the cap goes up to $75 million next year, the Oilers should be happy if they can get McDavid signed for under $13 million.
Interesting analysis. 13 mill would be 17.3% of the cap. Right in line with the aforementioned players.
