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Old 05-15-2015, 09:37 AM   #2161
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Starts the season with some survivorman styled grotesque mouth infection, gets his remaining teeth pulled, then has career ended a couple of months later on a succession of hits, one that is seriously dirty..
Yup, seriously dirty. Hate when guys leave their feet and launch themselves into another player, it's so unneeded. Bad enough you forearm a guy in his god damn head, you don't need to throw your entire body into it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:44 AM   #2162
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According to Friedman, Franson turned down a $13 million 3 year deal from the Leafs before being traded. Friedman says from what he heard he was happy in Toronto and did not turn the offer because he didn't want to stay there.
But has been been bad enough that the leafs are counting their blessings. That could be the vary best offer he has received by the time the summer is over.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:55 AM   #2163
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I'd rather have Schlemko at a million or two than Franson at 4M. If we could find a physical d-man who can skate for 4M then by all means. But really I can't see Franson being more than a slight upgrade on Schlem, we don't need that type of d-man.
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Yup, seriously dirty. Hate when guys leave their feet and launch themselves into another player, it's so unneeded. Bad enough you forearm a guy in his god damn head, you don't need to throw your entire body into it.
The quietest career-ending hit of the season.

The only ones who raised a stink about it were Flames fans. Nothing from the NHL, their silence was so telling. They want to get rid of head shots, but a player like Smid?..........apparently it's not a big deal. I'm sure if that was Ferland on Crosby we'd still be hearing about it.

So stunningly sad. They need to get their act together. How someone's career can be ended and the player who committed the act gets not so much as a fine is just unbelievable.
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The quietest career-ending hit of the season.

The only ones who raised a stink about it were Flames fans. Nothing from the NHL, their silence was so telling. They want to get rid of head shots, but a player like Smid?..........apparently it's not a big deal. I'm sure if that was Ferland on Crosby we'd still be hearing about it.

So stunningly sad. They need to get their act together. How someone's career can be ended and the player who committed the act gets not so much as a fine is just unbelievable.
Was it a hit by Despres or later on by Jordan Nolan?
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Old 05-15-2015, 10:27 AM   #2166
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The quietest career-ending hit of the season.

The only ones who raised a stink about it were Flames fans. Nothing from the NHL, their silence was so telling. They want to get rid of head shots, but a player like Smid?..........apparently it's not a big deal. I'm sure if that was Ferland on Crosby we'd still be hearing about it.

So stunningly sad. They need to get their act together. How someone's career can be ended and the player who committed the act gets not so much as a fine is just unbelievable.
It really is kind of disturbing that the status of a player or exposure of the organization determines the punishment. When it happens to a guy like Smid on a team like the Flames it's quickly buried as I expect outside of Calgary few in the media and around the league even know what happened. If this happened to a bottom pairing defenseman on the Leafs it's probably big news because of the market exposure especially if he's forced to retire. If it happens to Crosby its news every single day and there's a guaranteed long term punishment.

The NHL really needs to place more value on the person than the player as their tiered justice system is quite frankly an embarrassment of the sport. Lots of people hate on Goodell but in the NFL it doesn't matter who you are or who you injure in the sport everyone gets severe punishment that escalates with repeat offenders. If the NHL used their system there's a chance Mat Cooke never gets the opportunity to end Marc Savard's career.
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Was it a hit by Despres or later on by Jordan Nolan?
Probably both, but I'm thinking about the Despres hit.

Straight to the head, no penalty, no fine, no nothing. Unreal.
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Old 05-15-2015, 10:35 AM   #2168
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My interest in trading Wideman is because I don't want to see a pre-disposed fanbase run him out of town the way it happened with Glencross. I think he is the next whipping boy and would rather he move on while on a high than be incrementally belittled until he's anxious to leave.
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It really is kind of disturbing that the status of a player or exposure of the organization determines the punishment. When it happens to a guy like Smid on a team like the Flames it's quickly buried as I expect outside of Calgary few in the media and around the league even know what happened. If this happened to a bottom pairing defenseman on the Leafs it's probably big news because of the market exposure especially if he's forced to retire. If it happens to Crosby its news every single day and there's a guaranteed long term punishment.

The NHL really needs to place more value on the person than the player as their tiered justice system is quite frankly an embarrassment of the sport. Lots of people hate on Goodell but in the NFL it doesn't matter who you are or who you injure in the sport everyone gets severe punishment that escalates with repeat offenders. If the NHL used their system there's a chance Mat Cooke never gets the opportunity to end Marc Savard's career.
It did happen to Crosby and he was out for almost a full calendar year. There was no suspension....
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My interest in trading Wideman is because I don't want to see a pre-disposed fanbase run him out of town the way it happened with Glencross. I think he is the next whipping boy and would rather he move on while on a high than be incrementally belittled until he's anxious to leave.
I think there was a reason we all wanted glencross gone. He proved why in Washington. I was happy he wasn't with us in our playoff run.
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I don't remember where I heard or read it, but it was said that the Predators were unhappy with Dubnyk's work ethic in practice. So, perhaps some blame for his poor play in Edmonton could be on him but he also was improperly coached on a poor team that was all affected by improper coaching and management.
It was Barry Trotz. He didn't pull any punches when discussing their disappointment with him: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/t...s-with-oilers/

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He ended up playing two games for the Preds (with a 4.35 GAA) and was eventually traded to the Habs and sent to the AHL.
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It did happen to Crosby and he was out for almost a full calendar year. There was no suspension....
Are you talking about the David Steckel hit? I'm an advocate of suspending head shots but I never considered that a vicious intent to injure as that one to me looked like incidental contact. Steckel was skating up the ice full stride looking straight forward at where the puck was going and never changed his path and it was Crosby who was looking back who turned into him.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:17 PM   #2173
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Are you talking about the David Steckel hit? I'm an advocate of suspending head shots but I never considered that a vicious intent to injure as that one to me looked like incidental contact. Steckel was skating up the ice full stride looking straight forward at where the puck was going and never changed his path and it was Crosby who was looking back who turned into him.

No I'm talking about the one that happened after that one. I forget who it was but I think it was Victor Hedman? Hit Crosby from behind with his hands directed right to the back of his head and forcing him into the glass.

I agree that all malicious head shots should be suspended, but I disagree on the point that if the Smid hit happened to Crosby it would have been a long suspension. I believe the result would remain the same, based on past evidence
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I think there was a reason we all wanted glencross gone. He proved why in Washington. I was happy he wasn't with us in our playoff run.
Good job of proving killer_carlson right.
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Just some summer spitballing but what is it going to take for Drouin to get in the lineup in Tampa?

I can see they are taking him along very slow but with all their talent up front I wonder if they would consider moving him? I would gladly part with our 1st ++ to get him. Likely the type of player they will hold onto though for at least another year or 2
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There's no reason for them to trade Drouin. Unless it was overpayment like Gio/Brodie/Monahan + 1st. Makes no sense for us. Makes no sens for them to trade him for anything less.
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Just some summer spitballing but what is it going to take for Drouin to get in the lineup in Tampa?

I can see they are taking him along very slow but with all their talent up front I wonder if they would consider moving him? I would gladly part with our 1st ++ to get him. Likely the type of player they will hold onto though for at least another year or 2
We already blew that one. We could have had him for Cammalleri last year but that window has since closed as it no longer makes sense.
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What's the deal with Robin Lehner?

He seems to be getting worse every year, and hasn't been able to take the Sens net yet. Still only 23, but Anderson is still signed for 3 more seasons, and they just nabbed O'Connor.

Hammond IMO was probably just a flash in the pan, but if the Sens do re-sign him, they must be looking to move Lehner, you would think.
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We already blew that one. We could have had him for Cammalleri last year but that window has since closed as it no longer makes sense.
Was this post serious (and I'm missing something that ya'll know about), sarcastic, or were you just speculating? And if speculating, what makes you think the Lightning would have done that last year, and what makes you think the Flames wouldn't have?
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Was this post serious (and I'm missing something that ya'll know about), sarcastic, or were you just speculating? And if speculating, what makes you think the Lightning would have done that last year, and what makes you think the Flames wouldn't have?
Post wasn't serious. Was a jab at a post Rerun made last year sometime.
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