I saw something on Reddit Alberta about the UCP wanting to modify the junior high curriculum to add learning about basic life skills, financial literacy, career education and home maintenance. It is about time that some of these things were introduced or re-introduced to growing teens and pre-teens.
I don’t know, I don’t think it’s right that teachers are pushing their agenda on children. If a parent wants their children to know how to change a lightbulb that should be between the parent and the child.
Hopefully they are planning to send consent forms if they’re going to be adding this stuff to the curriculum.
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I saw something on Reddit Alberta about the UCP wanting to modify the junior high curriculum to add learning about basic life skills, financial literacy, career education and home maintenance. It is about time that some of these things were introduced or re-introduced to growing teens and pre-teens.
The changes that you are talking about are common sense, and there is a reason why it is front and center when talking about curriculum changes.
The other changes that are being made are cut and paste from deep south US school systems, and run by some pretty restrictive church officials.
It's a smokescreen.
It's also effected by other education policies that they already put in place, like opt-in, if sex is mentioned at any time. So, can't talk about hygiene.
Also, they moved some higher level math to lower grades already, and kids are starting to fall behind, but they are pushing forward anyway without adjustments. It's good that they are doing something positive, but it's a thin veneer over the negative.
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I saw something on Reddit Alberta about the UCP wanting to modify the junior high curriculum to add learning about basic life skills, financial literacy, career education and home maintenance. It is about time that some of these things were introduced or re-introduced to growing teens and pre-teens.
Teaching the youngsters about home maintenance feels kinda like adding insult to injury when they won't be able to afford homes because seniors vote against change.
CALM is taught in high school and this new curriculum would introduce this stuff to students in junior high. When we were in junior high we took home economics which taught us some life basics but I don't know how widespread that is now. It has been removed from my kid's school because they shut down the Kitchen classroom.
Also CALM is a course that many students do online in their own time now so they may not be learning or absorbing too much info. My oldest kid is in a new technology stream at the CBE and it replaces his CALM class so he is expected to complete that on his own time.
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I remember not being able to fit it into my schedule and having to take it remotely, I procrastinated considerably and then the teachers threatened to go on strike and it needed to be done immediately.
I finished the whole thing in 4 hours. That class is a joke.
I like the concept of teaching financial literacy but am concerned about who they're going to get to teach it. The Gym teacher? Frankly, this is a subject that should be run by someone who knows what they're talking about.
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I remember not being able to fit it into my schedule and having to take it remotely, I procrastinated considerably and then the teachers threatened to go on strike and it needed to be done immediately.
I finished the whole thing in 4 hours. That class is a joke.
I like the concept of teaching financial literacy but am concerned about who they're going to get to teach it. The Gym teacher? Frankly, this is a subject that should be run by someone who knows what they're talking about.
Ya, they should probably bring in life coaches for that. Those people really know their stuff.
I remember not being able to fit it into my schedule and having to take it remotely, I procrastinated considerably and then the teachers threatened to go on strike and it needed to be done immediately.
I finished the whole thing in 4 hours. That class is a joke.
I like the concept of teaching financial literacy but am concerned about who they're going to get to teach it. The Gym teacher? Frankly, this is a subject that should be run by someone who knows what they're talking about.
I don't think a financial literacy class in high school needs to go deep into the X's and 0's of things. It needs to be just the basic stuff. Stuff like buying a new car is almost always bad. Living within you means is good. The simple fact that the second you start collecting a paycheque almost everyone you meet, including many financial "experts", does NOT have you financial best interest in mind. A would rather have a gym teacher who can convey that message than some dude from Sunlife financial give a presentation on all the high risk and low risk portfolio options or an accountant going over his month end process.
As someone who has helped teach some financial literacy courses, the number one thing all young people need to know is how to create a proper budget. With everything being on plastic nowadays, they need to know how to track spending realistically.
I always start with a minimum wage budget and go from there. Showing realistic rental prices, needing a roommate to start out to make it work for lots of people. The true cost of post secondary. All of that helps and opens their eyes.
Also preaching the importance of saving if you can. Even a little amount with the amount of time young people have can greatly benefit them. Oh, and credit cards aren't the devil, but can be if you aren't living within your means. Keep the limit low, spend a little on it to start to build up your credit at 18 and pay it off in full every month.
Anyways...CALM is a joke and schools need outside help to teach some courses for at least a day, but preferably longer to make sure it sinks in
I don't think a financial literacy class in high school needs to go deep into the X's and 0's of things. It needs to be just the basic stuff. Stuff like buying a new car is almost always bad. Living within you means is good. The simple fact that the second you start collecting a paycheque almost everyone you meet, including many financial "experts", does NOT have you financial best interest in mind. A would rather have a gym teacher who can convey that message than some dude from Sunlife financial give a presentation on all the high risk and low risk portfolio options or an accountant going over his month end process.
Yeah great...let's start the kids off rejecting experts early so that by the time they're adults and have to plan for their family and future they can just rely on TikTok or YouTube to get them through. What could possibly go wrong?
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As someone who has helped teach some financial literacy courses, the number one thing all young people need to know is how to create a proper budget. With everything being on plastic nowadays, they need to know how to track spending realistically.
I always start with a minimum wage budget and go from there. Showing realistic rental prices, needing a roommate to start out to make it work for lots of people. The true cost of post secondary. All of that helps and opens their eyes.
Also preaching the importance of saving if you can. Even a little amount with the amount of time young people have can greatly benefit them. Oh, and credit cards aren't the devil, but can be if you aren't living within your means. Keep the limit low, spend a little on it to start to build up your credit at 18 and pay it off in full every month.
Anyways...CALM is a joke and schools need outside help to teach some courses for at least a day, but preferably longer to make sure it sinks in
Well...CALM does have that. Whether kids listen and actually use that knowledge is another thing entirely. I'm not sure how you address that though?
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As someone who has helped teach some financial literacy courses, the number one thing all young people need to know is how to create a proper budget. With everything being on plastic nowadays, they need to know how to track spending realistically.
I always start with a minimum wage budget and go from there. Showing realistic rental prices, needing a roommate to start out to make it work for lots of people. The true cost of post secondary. All of that helps and opens their eyes.
That’s exactly what my kids were recently taught in CALM. They had an exercise where they had to budget rent, utilities, internet, groceries, a car (optional), etc on something like $2,200k a month income. And yes, one of the conclusions they reached is it’s extremely hard to do without a roommate.
As Slava points out, the hard part isn’t showing teens how to do a budget. It’s getting them to actually follow one once they’re adults.
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That’s exactly what my kids were taught in CALM. They had an exercise where they had to budget rent, utilities, internet, groceries, a car (optional), etc on something like $2,200k a month income. And yes, one of the conclusions they reached is it’s extremely hard to do without a roommate.
As Slava points out, the hard part isn’t showing teens how to do a budget. It’s getting them to actually follow one once they’re adults.
And that doesn't only apply to teens. People are well aware (despite protestations!) that they shouldn't carry a credit card balance, shouldn't spend money they don't have and that they should save money. I always love these conversations. It's basically the same discussion as George having sex with the cleaning lady.
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I like the concept of teaching financial literacy but am concerned about who they're going to get to teach it. The Gym teacher? Frankly, this is a subject that should be run by someone who knows what they're talking about.
Yeah. I had lowest-seniority gym teacher for CALM. Once she insisted that even with 3 degrees nobody would ever make more than $60k per year since that's how much she made and she had 3 degrees she really lost the room.
Maybe my class wasn't the target for CALM - I haven't kept up with everyone but there are at least 3 doctors, a handful of biglaw lawyers, and most of the rest are engineers/finance types...
