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Old 11-05-2023, 07:50 PM   #2141
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I don’t know what intentional grounding is anymore
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Old 11-05-2023, 08:01 PM   #2142
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Green Bay drifting out of the QB pick territory with these wins. May be stuck with Love going forward
GB was never ever going to go QB in the first round unless they were at 1....which was also never happening.
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Old 11-05-2023, 08:28 PM   #2143
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GB was never ever going to go QB in the first round unless they were at 1....which was also never happening.
Why not? Its clearly their weakest position and Loves contract isnt anything they're stuck behind
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Old 11-05-2023, 08:40 PM   #2144
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Bad decision to go for it on 4th & 5.
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Collinsworth saying the Bengals have run better than the Bills when the Bills have more yards and a higher Avg is on brand.
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Old 11-05-2023, 08:54 PM   #2146
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Why not? Its clearly their weakest position and Loves contract isnt anything they're stuck behind
Because he has started all of 8 football games in his career...he has won half of em. 7 of those starts with the youngest WR core in the league.


They are not giving up on him yet, rightly or wrongly.
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Old 11-05-2023, 08:57 PM   #2147
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Cinci burning all their timeouts this early at home. It's a head scratcher.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:08 PM   #2148
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No answer for Allen's running ability.
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This is a terrible challenge even if they win it, risking the timeout is not worth it.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:15 PM   #2150
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Can someone explain to me why they would go for 2 there?
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Can someone explain to me why they would go for 2 there?
You need two touchdowns, which unto itself is hard to do. And it doesn't even win it. If you intend on going for two at all, then the first time getting it allows you to have another chance if you miss to still tie. If you go the second one there is likely no time left and you definitely lose. And obviously if you get it like Buffalo did then 7 wins it.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:25 PM   #2153
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Didn’t expect it be close but of course it had to be frustrating with vintage McD stupidity to boot. They are what they are, a fringe playoff team.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:33 PM   #2154
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You need two touchdowns, which unto itself is hard to do. And it doesn't even win it. If you intend on going for two at all, then the first time getting it allows you to have another chance if you miss to still tie. If you go the second one there is likely no time left and you definitely lose. And obviously if you get it like Buffalo did then 7 wins it.
So it's only something you do if you don't like your chances of winning in OT (or you have huge confidence in your ability to convert a 2 point attempt).

Overall, I still think kicking two one-pointers to get to OT is the better option.

Anyways, it's looking more and more likely that last year's final 4 will be the final 4 again (unless the Ravens make it there at the expense of KC or Cinci).
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Because he has started all of 8 football games in his career...he has won half of em. 7 of those starts with the youngest WR core in the league.


They are not giving up on him yet, rightly or wrongly.
Lol. Good to hear
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So it's only something you do if you don't like your chances of winning in OT (or you have huge confidence in your ability to convert a 2 point attempt).

Overall, I still think kicking two one-pointers to get to OT is the better option.

Anyways, it's looking more and more likely that last year's final 4 will be the final 4 again (unless the Ravens make it there at the expense of KC or Cinci).
I think twos convert at like 52% and the single point is now 95%. So in terms of percentages it's 2.1 to 1.9. Plus if you get the first two, you have the higher percentage to play to win.
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Assuming winning/losing in OT is 50/50...

Kick after first TD:

Lose game (miss kick then miss 2pt convert, miss kick then make 2pt convert and lose in OT, make first kick and miss 2nd kick, or make both kicks and lose in OT):

(.05)*(.48) + (.05)*(.52)*(.5) + (.95)*(.05) + (.95)*(.95)*(.5) = 0.53575 or 53.6%

Win game (miss kick then make 2pt convert and win in OT, or make both kicks and win in OT):

(.05)*(.52)*(.5) + (.95)*(.95)*(.5) = .46425 or 46.4%

2 pt convert after first TD:

Lose game (miss 2pt convert then miss 2pt convert, miss 2pt convert then make 2pt convert and lose in OT, or make 2pt convert then miss kick and lose in OT):

(.48)*(.48) + (.48)*(.52)*(.5) + (.52)*(.05)*(.5) = 0.3682 or 36.8%

Win game (make 2pt convert and make kick, make 2pt convert and miss kick but win in OT, or miss 2pt convert and make 2pt convert and win in OT):

(.52)*(.95) + (.52)*(.05)*(.5) + (.48)*(.52)*(.5) = .6318 or 63.2%


Holy ####. It's not even close. I stand corrected.
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Maybe it's only because it's barely November but it feels like kicking on extra points has been better this year. But I'd have to look it up to verify it.

The AFC North might be the strongest Division I can remember. Half way through the year and 3 teams at 5-3 and another at 7-2. Not uncommon for a Division to have 3 playoff teams, but 4 is really rare. NFC West had some years where all 4 teams were good after having some where they were all bad. This Division always has 1 good team and has had 3 in the playoffs a lot. Don't think all 4 can make it, but likely all 4 teams end up between 9 and 13 wins.
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Old 11-06-2023, 09:43 AM   #2160
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My entire fantasy lineup of starters on a bye week and I could have won if I started Stroud over Tua.

Who knew he would toss 5 tds and throw for 450 yards.
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