Edmonton is No Good Episode 4: New Rink, Same Stink

[powderjunkie]

Has anybody mentioned that we have more points than the Oilers now? After they lose tonight, it will be in an equal number of games.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

I think the past examples to follow for McDavid's next contract negotiations are Crosby and Ovechkin. Neither of those two made it to UFA (yet), nor did their teams leave them offer sheet eligible.

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No, but both Crosby and Ovechkin signed the highest contracts in the NHL at the time. That will mean a huge payout by the Oilers; likely a figure we have not seen before.

[flamesrule14]

It's pretty funny a lot of oiler fans here in Edmonton are under the impression he will sign long term for 9.7 a year. He'll do it for the good of the team and because he wants to win so bad that he'll take a discount so the team can sign other players. Just a pipe dream and all I can do is laugh.

And let's be honest the oilers will sign Mcdavid probably as soon as they can. They know he is their meal ticket and there's not a chance they will risk an offer sheet. The day they lose him like that is the day that new arena is burnt to the ground.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

I think the past examples to follow for McDavid's next contract negotiations are Crosby and Ovechkin. Neither of those two made it to UFA (yet), nor did their teams leave them offer sheet eligible.

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You want to compare him to Crosby? Okay.

Crosby's post ELC contract was 5 x $8.7M. If we project it to what we think the cap will be in 2 years ($75-77M), we're probably looking at a deal in the neighbourhood of 5 x $11.5 - $11.8M

To me, 4 or 5 years in the $11.5 - $12 range is what I would expect (very similar to Crosby)

If the Oilers want 6 to 8 years, it will be north of $12M

(that is just about what everyone here has been saying)

[Lil Pedro]

Instead of talking about that losers future cap hit, can we continue the conversation on how much the Oilers suck?

[CaptainCrunch]

We are seeing an example of what happens when a team continually sewers for high draft picks and doesn't draft particularly well and on top of that doesn't develop particularly well.

They end up with a team with zero depth, zero hope coming up from the prospect pool and because those high draft picks need to get paid and especially generational guys, they'll end up being a one line one blueline pairing bubble team at best who's only claim to fame is we got this generational guy, who's awesome but will leave when every team makes a play for him.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

Instead of talking about that losers future cap hit, can we continue the conversation on how much the Oilers suck?

What, 'Connor McDavid's Future Cap Hit is No Good' doesnt interest you?

[Erick Estrada]

The McDavid contract situation will be one of the leagues most intriguing we have seen in years. If he leads the league in scoring does his agent play hard for $12 a season? I'm fairly sure there will be no discounts in a long term deal. Does he even want to sign long term in Edmonton? Will be fun for Flames fans to follow.

Draisaitl is playing himself into a $6+ million per year deal. Where's all the cap room going to come from?

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The McDavid contract situation will be one of the leagues most intriguing we have seen in years. If he leads the league in scoring does his agent play hard for $12 a season? I'm fairly sure there will be no discounts in a long term deal. Does he even want to sign long term in Edmonton? Will be fun for Flames fans to follow.

Draisaitl is playing himself into a $6+ million per year deal. Where's all the cap room going to come from?

I have nothing to add except for I liked the Nenshi avatar.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You want to compare him to Crosby? Okay.

Crosby's post ELC contract was 5 x $8.7M. If we project it to what we think the cap will be in 2 years ($75-77M), we're probably looking at a deal in the neighbourhood of 5 x $11.5 - $11.8M

To me, 4 or 5 years in the $11.5 - $12 range is what I would expect (very similar to Crosby)

If the Oilers want 6 to 8 years, it will be north of $12M

(that is just about what everyone here has been saying)

When Crosby signed his, he was part of an exciting group of players on a Penguins team that he really wanted to be part of.

I am not so sure that is the same situation in Edmonton. He may decide that he is playing for the worst franchise in the NHL and will max out because he knows that the Oilers will not use any money saved on his contract effectively.

[djsFlames]

So 15-16 million will be needed to lock up Drai and McDavid. They currently have about 5-6m in cap space, with Ference's 3m the largest contract coming off the books after this season. Yeah that's gonna be a fun puzzle to figure out. Have to imagine one of Eberle/Tenderness will have to be moved for peanuts alike the Yak deal.

[aiy_yah]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

When Crosby signed his, he was part of an exciting group of players on a Penguins team that he really wanted to be part of.

I am not so sure that is the same situation in Edmonton. He may decide that he is playing for the worst franchise in the NHL and will max out because he knows that the Oilers will not use any money saved on his contract effectively.

Remember how pissed he looked when the Oiler lottery ball came up? Gold. Don't see him staying there long term.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The McDavid contract situation will be one of the leagues most intriguing we have seen in years. If he leads the league in scoring does his agent play hard for $12 a season? I'm fairly sure there will be no discounts in a long term deal. Does he even want to sign long term in Edmonton? Will be fun for Flames fans to follow.

Draisaitl is playing himself into a $6+ million per year deal. Where's all the cap room going to come from?

If he wins the Art Ross, or the Oil make playoffs or better yet, he wins the Hart, my starting position as his agent is that he wants max dollar which is 20% of the total cap. Closer to $15 million per season I believe.

Why ask for anything less if your client is the best player in the NHL at 20 years old?

[White Out 403]

Expect an Oiler win tonight. Jets are in a tail spin. My soul hurts.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

If he wins the Art Ross, or the Oil make playoffs or better yet, he wins the Hart, my starting position as his agent is that he wants max dollar which is 20% of the total cap. Closer to $15 million per season I believe.

Why ask for anything less if your client is the best player in the NHL at 20 years old?

Because a lot of players who were 20 and the best in the world didn't ask for that much?

McDavid isn't going to ask for even close to the max, he'd be setting himself up for failure and he knows that. A number around $11 million would make sense for him and totally not handicap the team.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Expect an Oiler win tonight. Jets are in a tail spin. My soul hurts.

Don't worry, so are the Oilers.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have faith in the Jets. Go Jets.

Ew.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Because a lot of players who were 20 and the best in the world didn't ask for that much?

McDavid isn't going to ask for even close to the max, he'd be setting himself up for failure and he knows that. A number around $11 million would make sense for him and totally not handicap the team.

This post doesn't make any sense. Setting himself for failure? WTF.

If the agent isn't using all his leverage to ask for as much as he can, the agent is not doing his job.

With the credentials his client has, the agency should absolutely be seeking the league max. Centerman, captain, Art Ross material, 20 years old.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

So 15-16 million will be needed to lock up Drai and McDavid. They currently have about 5-6m in cap space, with Ference's 3m the largest contract coming off the books after this season. Yeah that's gonna be a fun puzzle to figure out. Have to imagine one of Eberle/Tenderness will have to be moved for peanuts alike the Yak deal.

You have to remember that Draisaitl and McDavid are already on cap hits of ~$4 million each.

So it's not like they need to add 16 million in cap space. They probably need to add around $8 million to get those two signed.

[White Out 403]

If McJesus isn't getting 12 million a year or more after his ELC his agent should be fired.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

You have to remember that Draisaitl and McDavid are already on cap hits of ~$4 million each.

So it's not like they need to add 16 million in cap space. They probably need to add around $8 million to get those two signed.

I assume you're talking about bonuses. Do you not think their new contracts will have bonus incentives?