Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Perpetual surge pricing.

A mass casualty event would certainly be...profitable for the providers.

[D as in David]

They make it sound like all that's missing is an app.

[Fuzz]

An app will fix everything.


In some better news, the new Cancer Centre had it's opening today. Remember to thank the NDP government for that if you or your loved ones ever need it, and maybe consider that next time you vote. A reminder that the current UCP keeps pausing hospital projects, despite a rapidly growing population, for reasons that must make sense if you only have 3 brain cells.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

UCP's brilliant plan for fixing healthcare is to turn it into Uber, instead of actually paying their staff.
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/premier-...ices-1.7076309

The idea sounds good if the issue is inefficient delivery of services. Where that strategy falls apart is when demand is so far above supply that there's still zero excess supply. There are no LTC beds that are empty because people can't find a way to access them. This service might be great at keeping people in the loop, but I can't see how this increases the number of beds

[para transit fellow]

so we get an app that shows the waiting time for moving to a long term care centre... that will be helpful.

it will be helpful just like the app that shows the wait time in the Emergency department..

it won't change availability, or number of beds.. but someone will be satified that the government did something that would be "helpful"

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by para transit fellow

so we get an app that shows the waiting time for moving to a long term care centre... that will be helpful.

it will be helpful just like the app that shows the wait time in the Emergency department..

it won't change availability, or number of beds.. but someone will be satified that the government did something that would be "helpful"

Oh god, getting into continuing care is gonna be as bad as trying to book a campground, isn't it? *refresh refresh refresh*

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by para transit fellow

so we get an app that shows the waiting time for moving to a long term care centre... that will be helpful.

it will be helpful just like the app that shows the wait time in the Emergency department..

it won't change availability, or number of beds.. but someone will be satified that the government did something that would be "helpful"

No, they wouldn't use the Uber app for that; they'd use the Airbnb or Vrbo app for that. They'll also look at Skip The Dishes, Door Dash or Uber Eats for providing them with food. And for the ones that still have some friskiness in them, there are plenty of online dating apps.

The UCP government will p̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶e̶n̶d̶e̶r̶ select the app provider in each space that o̶f̶f̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶v̶a̶l̶u̶e̶ financially rewards a UCP donor.

[Ozy_Flame]

Get the parade floats ready!

Alberta UCP to vote on celebrating CO2, and not recognizing it as pollutant

A proposal to stop labelling carbon dioxide as a pollutant and instead celebrate it as a "foundational nutrient for all life on Earth” will be up for debate at the United Conservative Party’s annual general meeting in November.

The resolution, which includes abandoning Alberta’s net-zero targets, flies in the face of the scientific consensus that carbon dioxide emissions created by humans burning fossil fuels is one of the primary drivers of global warming. The increased temperatures, in turn, cause more frequent and extreme weather like wildfires, floods, heat waves, storms and droughts. A study published in Nature found the deadly 2021 heat dome in BC that killed more than 619 people was amplified by climate change and other events like the fires that tore through Jasper this summer are made more likely and exacerbated by climate change.

The policy resolution put forward by the Athabasca-Barrhead-Westlock and Red Deer South constituency associations says the carbon cycle is a biological necessity and “The earth needs more CO2 to support life and to increase plant yields, both of which will contribute to the Health and Prosperity of all Albertans.”

[Fuzz]

That's super honest and accurate, I like it. To maximize vitality and life at the AGM, I propose validating their views by adjusting CO2 concentrations to 20% or so, since it's gotta be as vital as oxygen, right?



Live by the dumb, die by the dumb.

[DownInFlames]

Concentration above 1000ppm can cause discomfort, confusion or drowsiness in humans. I think the UCP has been huffing it based on their policy proposals.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Get the parade floats ready!

Alberta UCP to vote on celebrating CO2, and not recognizing it as pollutant

I’d be much more supportive if the analysis looked at risk of drought, extended growing seasons, expansion of farming areas, long term water supply just in terms of Alberta. It’s possible that between the benefits to our oil industry and the advantages that climate change has in some areas of Alberta that Alberta is better off doing nothing.

Or if they just came out and said Alberta’s inability to meaningfully change climate change means we won’t regulate C02 and that tariffs from the EU won’t change that.

There are reasonable intelligent cases to be made that Alberta shouldn’t fight climate change because we disproportionately benefit from the activities that need to be curtailed. I wouldn’t support such a position but a position could be built.

Instead we get nonsense.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GGG

I’d be much more supportive if the analysis looked at risk of drought, extended growing seasons, expansion of farming areas, long term water supply just in terms of Alberta. It’s possible that between the benefits to our oil industry and the advantages that climate change has in some areas of Alberta that Alberta is better off doing nothing.

Or if they just came out and said Alberta’s inability to meaningfully change climate change means we won’t regulate C02 and that tariffs from the EU won’t change that.

There are reasonable intelligent cases to be made that Alberta shouldn’t fight climate change because we disproportionately benefit from the activities that need to be curtailed. I wouldn’t support such a position but a position could be built.

Instead we get nonsense.

If climate change was better for Alberta(and it could be) wouldn't making that policy decision be nothing more than a FYGM to the rest of the world?

[Geraldsh]

Every elected member of the UCP should be wearing an FYGM badge.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Geraldsh

Every elected member of the UCP should be wearing an FYGM badge.

Not just the elected ones, many of the unelected are also "getting theirs" like Preston Manning cashing taxpayer checks for...reasons, I guess.

[DownInFlames]

Ever talk to a rural Albertan who complains about transfer payments to Quebec? Ask them if they think the cities should have the same complaint about subsidizing them.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Get the parade floats ready!

Alberta UCP to vote on celebrating CO2, and not recognizing it as pollutant

As a proud Albertan I always fast forward the part of Apollo 13 where they solve the CO2 "problem" by making the scrubber adapter.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Ever talk to a rural Albertan who complains about transfer payments to Quebec? Ask them if they think the cities should have the same complaint about subsidizing them.

Better do it soon. Most of them are going to die off by having no doctors left in town to see them.

[Muta]

Heard a UCP ad on the Fan960 while driving to work this morning, saying that property taxes doubled under Nenshi, he was bad for Calgary blah blah blah (and that him and Trudeau support each other lol).

Is that claim about taxes even accurate? I don't recall in the slightest my property taxes 'doubling' under Nenshi. I also recall him being an awesome mayor in a variety of ways for this city.

[DownInFlames]

Some commercial buildings had huge tax increases because the value of downtown real estate plummeted. I don't know if any doubled but residential definitely didn't. Maybe he bought a bigger house or something.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Get the parade floats ready!

Alberta UCP to vote on celebrating CO2, and not recognizing it as pollutant

This sorta reads like an Onion article?