The 2012 UEFA European Championship - Poland/Ukraine - The Thread!

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Ark2

You can always count on England choking. Maybe they make it past Italy (although I don't think they will) but that will be the end of them. Quite possibly the most overrated soccer nation in the world.

Overrated? LOLWUT

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Ark2

You can always count on England choking. Maybe they make it past Italy (although I don't think they will) but that will be the end of them. Quite possibly the most overrated soccer nation in the world.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Locke

Never going to happen.

I know, everyone but Roy sees it.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Ark2

You can always count on England choking. Maybe they make it past Italy (although I don't think they will) but that will be the end of them. Quite possibly the most overrated soccer nation in the world.

losing to a German team who were 2nd favorites coming in, England were 7th I believe, would definitely be a choke

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Happy to see Italy-England, as it is a different match up for the Italians.

It seems that France-Italy are always paired together in either the knockout stages or qualifying for major tournaments.

I can't remember the last time Italy played England at a major tournament to be honest.

It's really rare...

They have never met in a World Cup, unless you count the 3rd place match in World Cup 1990. Italy won 2-1. Personaly I don't consider 3rd place games as real games.

They met once at the Euros in the group stage in 1980 also in Italy. Italy won 1-0.

That's it!


Edit: England beat Italy 2-0 at Le Tournoi. Does that count!?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Ark2

You can always count on England choking. Maybe they make it past Italy (although I don't think they will) but that will be the end of them. Quite possibly the most overrated soccer nation in the world.

By who? The English press, who pretty much live to build things up and then break them down when they fail to live up to the absurd hype? The laughable FIFA rankings? Nobody who actually knows anything about the game thinks England is all that great, certainly not to a level where they could be accused of being overrated.

[Notorious Honey Badger]

it's really too bad that after such a great start to the tourney ukraine and croatia are out. ukraine was a longshot but croatia has the quality and passion to do better. sad

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah no way England "chokes" in this tournament. There would be no shame in losing to Italy or Germany.

Winning their group without having their best player for two games should probably already be seen as a success for England.

[Locke]

England has done exactly what they set out to do, they qualified for the knockout stage. Winning the group is a bonus.

Most realistic expectations seem to be that this is job done, if they manage to beat Italy and continue on then so much the better.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Locke

England has done exactly what they set out to do, they qualified for the knockout stage. Winning the group is a bonus.

Most realistic expectations seem to be that this is job done, if they manage to beat Italy and continue on then so much the better.

Apparently not Elementary enough in understanding for some. for one for Ark2

[TopChed]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

the entire MF has

Gerrard keeps trying for hollywood balls, Young had the one nice cross but other than that is useless

Was I missing something? I tuned out after 80 minutes, but I don't remember Gerrard missing a single pass.

[Locke]

If you want to see the definition of the word 'choke' then look at Holland and Russia.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Locke

If you want to see the definition of the word 'choke' then look at Holland and Russia.

Russia is no surprise.

http://espnfc.com/us/en/news/1108121/ubha-advance-.html

We hoped for better, but it turned out as it always does.

“The fact that we didn't live up to your expectations isn't our problem. It's yours.” Andrei Arshavin's response to a fan after Russia crashed out of Euro 2012.

[Cheerio]

Damn, working Saturday afternoon and missing the Spain France game

[troutman]

Originally Posted by valo403

By who? The English press, who pretty much live to build things up and then break them down when they fail to live up to the absurd hype? The laughable FIFA rankings? Nobody who actually knows anything about the game thinks England is all that great, certainly not to a level where they could be accused of being overrated.

I think the correct term is most over-discussed team in the world.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

At this point I'd love to see a Portugal Spain and Italy Germany semis.

Obvious rivalry in one and a rematch of the oh so epic 2006 WC semi.

[Coys1882]

Parker was a flat out stud in the midfield today - COYS!!!!

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Parker was a flat out stud in the midfield today - COYS!!!!

bloody ***s

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by TopChed

Was I missing something? I tuned out after 80 minutes, but I don't remember Gerrard missing a single pass.

it's not as though I meant to criticize him too much, I think he has been England's best so far, it's that too many times he goes for the 40 yard pass when a 10 yard pass will do

[Jagger]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

it's not as though I meant to criticize him too much, I think he has been England's best so far, it's that too many times he goes for the 40 yard pass when a 10 yard pass will do

Some people might accuse me of being biased but not only has Gerrard been England's best player I would argue that he has been one of the most influential players in the entire tournament. The man is on a mission.