2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Oh, you mean washed up players like Corey Perry and Taylor Hall? No prime free agents are looking to go to Chicago right now, they are not close, even with Bedard. They are not looking to come to Calgary either. Or San Jose. Or Anaheim. Or Columbus. Etc...

They weren’t looking at Chicago because Chicago had not interest (yet) to add.

But once they are, Chicago will be a preferred destination again because they are a team that will rise quickly. Tons of draft picks, tons of cap space , tons of prospects and a preferred destination.

And they have Bedard.

Players don’t just look at where a team is today, they look at where they expect them to be for the length of the contract.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You can do both you know? Some of you don't even listen to what the GM has actually said. It's like you plug your fingers in your ears and ignore the fact Conroy has said over and over the goal is to make the playoffs next year. They are not rebuilding, they are not looking to tank, and no amount of whining, crying, bitching, and moaning from the tear it down crowd is going to change it. He can't do it even if he wanted to, he is saddled with vets with long term deals and NMC and he has a boss that wants the team back in the playoffs ASAP. Are they going brg game hunting this offseason or looking at expensive long term deals? No. Are they looking at adding young cost controlled players by spending draft capital? Absolutely. You can pout and say I give up or maybe you can try and hope for the best instead of the worst for a change.

Soooo take the bet ? You sure are sure of yourself

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You can do both you know? Some of you don't even listen to what the GM has actually said. It's like you plug your fingers in your ears and ignore the fact Conroy has said over and over the goal is to make the playoffs next year. They are not rebuilding, they are not looking to tank, and no amount of whining, crying, bitching, and moaning from the tear it down crowd is going to change it. He can't do it even if he wanted to, he is saddled with vets with long term deals and NMC and he has a boss that wants the team back in the playoffs ASAP. Are they going brg game hunting this offseason or looking at expensive long term deals? No. Are they looking at adding young cost controlled players by spending draft capital? Absolutely. You can pout and say I give up or maybe you can try and hope for the best instead of the worst for a change.

The contract are actually helping us tank, its keeping the team away from what you are saying going out and adding to make the playoffs.

What did you expect him to say? What message is he sending the locker? Hey guys go out and lose.

It's a retool, which feels like a rebuild. Did you miss the trades he made?

This is not pouting, this is hoping for the team to do the right thing and use the draft capital to draft players.

What team goes into the offseason ready to deal away their #1 goalie that wants to make the playoffs?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

For the record if they could move all their vets for draft picks and absolutely bottom out I would 100% be on board. They can't do it though, it is what it is.

They don’t have to . They current roster is a 75 pt team AT BEST IMO

That would be 5th worse this season .

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I don't think he will have option though. I can't see him trading our first.

Who is he going to add with Vans 1st or the 2nds or the 3rds that will move the needle enough?

I think his plan is not to get blown out 5 to 1 every night. Be more competitive than Chicago or San Jose are but still bottom 5-10.

We need teams like Chicago, Columbus and Anaheim to improve. San Jose will be at the bottom, but some years 75 points can be bottom 5.

I don't know. I don't think that is the plan. He even said hes ready to bring in 18-20 year olds with the pick.

Most teams are not trading those players anyways.

I think they want to be competitive, but they are realistic. They made a bunch of futures trades, and added some player to play.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No it doesn't, you just want that to be the case because you want a scorched Earth rebuild. It isn't happening.

What players are they going to get that are better than Tanev, Hanifin, and Lindholm? The defense will be worse for sure and the forward roster needs a significant upgrade to get into playoff bubble territory let alone to a top ten spot like you think is possible.

That’s not even getting into the next UFA crop they have to deal with.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

They don’t have to . They current roster is a 75 pt team AT BEST IMO

That would be 5th worse this season .

Apparently you can rebuild, and compete for the playoffs at the same time.

I am confused.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I certainly think it's a possibility that they can bottom out. I'm defining bottoming out as the bottom 6 or so teams. As it stands right now they don't have a truly bottom lineup, but one thing to consider was how many games Markstrom stole for the team last year.

I think their defense gets them to a bottom 5 finish in of itself.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think their defense gets them to a bottom 5 finish in of itself.

It's a bottom 5 team.

Adding a 2C and 4th defenceman does what? Now we are the 9th worst team, and out draft capital, and worsened our draft position.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Apparently you can rebuild, and compete for the playoffs at the same time.

I am confused.

They are not rebuilding, they are retooling on the fly. I am not surprised you are confused.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's a bottom 5 team.

Adding a 2C and 4th defenceman does what? Now we are the 9th worst team, and out draft capital, and worsened our draft position.

It isn't. We are currently a bottom 9 team after an underachieving season. If you can't do simple math I can see why you are confused.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

They don’t have to . They current roster is a 75 pt team AT BEST IMO

That would be 5th worse this season .

Except it wasn't so you are wrong.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They are not rebuilding, they are retooling on the fly. I am not surprised you are confused.

Retooling teams don't trade roster players for draft picks and prospects, and projects to throw into the lineup.

You do understand he has to sell this to the fanbase, they still need to sell tickets.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except it wasn't so you are wrong.

75 pts would have been the 5th worse record in NHL …Montreal finished with 76

Time to take a breather from the message board

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Soooo take the bet ? You sure are sure of yourself

I already said I would take the bet providing there is not a big subtraction from the roster.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You can do both you know? Some of you don't even listen to what the GM has actually said. It's like you plug your fingers in your ears and ignore the fact Conroy has said over and over the goal is to make the playoffs next year. They are not rebuilding, they are not looking to tank, and no amount of whining, crying, bitching, and moaning from the tear it down crowd is going to change it. He can't do it even if he wanted to, he is saddled with vets with long term deals and NMC and he has a boss that wants the team back in the playoffs ASAP. Are they going brg game hunting this offseason or looking at expensive long term deals? No. Are they looking at adding young cost controlled players by spending draft capital? Absolutely. You can pout and say I give up or maybe you can try and hope for the best instead of the worst for a change.

You can keep ranting about the moaning and crying from fans but all Conroy has said that a teams needs to be competitive and play hard. Not that it is playoffs or bust. Every team wants young and cost-controlled players but good ones are rarely ever up for a trade. My guess is he adds a few more players on the cheap like Miromanov and calls it a day. The best quote he has had is about staying out of the free agent market unless he can sign some players to two or three year contracts.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

75 pts would have been the 5th worse record in NHL …Montreal finished with 76

Time to take a breather from the message board

Who cares what your make belief numbers are? They finished with 81, ahead of Montreal. Try living in reality guy.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It isn't. We are currently a bottom 9 team after an underachieving season. If you can't do simple math I can see why you are confused.

How did we underachieve? lol

Kadri 2nd best season of his career.
Coleman career year.
Weegar career year.
Sharangovich career year.
Hanifin was having a career year.

All that happening probably kept us from a better pick. You think a bunch of 30 plus year olds will keep improving?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

For the record if they could move all their vets for draft picks and absolutely bottom out I would 100% be on board. They can't do it though, it is what it is.

There are some players on the team that don't want that, they came here because they wanted to win. That's partly why I'm a little annoyed that they went ahead and started winning at the end of the season when it was just moral victories. I don't think a few losses would have made much difference to Wolf's ability to win. I think had we have sustained a few more losses we could have a better opportunity and winning the lottery, or just acquiring a better overall player. But us picking 9th, just adds to the question marks for next season. If we don't play well next season those veteran players are probably going to be even more disconnected. Players picked in the later draft rankings don't usually step into the team right away. If we drafted a little higher I would think we'd have a better chance at an impact player that could step in a little sooner.

I am still a little concerned that if we don't bottom out enough, we could end up with players that just don't move the needle enough to make us competitive down the road. The opportunity to do it is now, I just hope that we don't miss that window and come out of this too soon.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

You can keep ranting about the moaning and crying from fans but all Conroy has said that a teams needs to be competitive and play hard. Not that it is playoffs or bust. Every team wants young and cost-controlled players but good ones are rarely ever up for a trade. My guess is he adds a few more players on the cheap like Miromanov and calls it a day. The best quote he has had is about staying out of the free agent market unless he can sign some players to two or three year contracts.

Conroy has said the goal is the playoffs, multiple times. Go watch his pressers after the season.