[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[Captain Otto]

Either way or whatever theory you have, Johnny gave Calgary and Flames fan a bIg FU!

He's dead to me and I'll boo him every chance I get. #### him.


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[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status...83277110956032

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf-UmC5PlSP/

In fairness, this is pretty much the lowest bar the team could do to say goodbye. He got the social media equivalent of "it's been a pleasure working with you, all the best in the future..."

[BurningSteel]

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...hlight=Calgary

QUOTE=BurningSteel;5485911]I hope one of two things happen.

1. We lock him up long term.

2. He finds some super hot girl who blows his mind, He marries her and she refuses to leave Calgary due to all her family etc being here and he signs long term.[/QUOTE]

I called it all those years ago. If only it had happened this way.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Southside

If this is accurate, perhaps Johnny was sort of blacklisted? I know the owners are a bit of an old boys club. Is this possibly why Philly and New Jersry backed away, they knew Johnny was a weasel and didn't want to entertain him? And yeah, sounds like Johnny's wife has her hand deep up his ass.

Or they just weren't rushing to meet any demands. Of course Columbus was, because they need this. Its huge for Columbus and I lm happy for them.

[jg13]

murray to johnny and gross

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Southside

If this is accurate, perhaps Johnny was sort of blacklisted? I know the owners are a bit of an old boys club. Is this possibly why Philly and New Jersry backed away, they knew Johnny was a weasel and didn't want to entertain him? And yeah, sounds like Johnny's wife has her hand deep up his ass.

Johnny weasel

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

It's really easy to blame the wife. He's been negotiating with the Flames for how long now? His wife just all of a sudden last minuet to veto the deal? She must've told her husband she doesn't want to stay in Calgary?

This is going to be my random guess on how this would play out.

I think for Johnny it really felt like his preference was probably Philly or Calgary. That always felt like the way this was going and that even felt like the indication from the Family. Go look at his families Twitter likes, lots of posts about staying in Calgary or articles about how the hometown boy always said he’d love to play in Philly one day.

I think with that in mind it took up until the 12th because the Gaudreau camp couldn’t commit one way or another to the Flames because they didn’t know the Flyers cap situation. It sounds like the Flyers were trying to move JVR to make the room but also maybe werent as sold as everyone thought they’d be on bringing Johnny home.

On the morning of the 12th it becomes clear that Philly might not actually be an option because they still haven’t cleared the cap.

At that point Gross and Johnny begin more serious negotiations with the Flames with each side making their “Final Offers”.

The Flames meet the ask from Gaudreau and Johnny takes it back to his wife/family. At this point his wife maybe isn’t on board because she’s open to more than just Philly and it re-starts the discussion. Also it’s possible that Johnny isn’t ready to give up on his Flyers dream quite yet and wants to give them another day.

In the end the Flames feel like they were led on (and they kind of were) and that burns that bridge with the Flames organization. The Flyers don’t clear the room and announce they are out of the Gaudreau sweepstakes on the afternoon of the 13th.

And then a couple of hours later the Gaudreau contract with Columbus is official, and Johnny really didn’t seem comfortable or sold on the whole outcome.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

That would explain why Johnny is seeming a bit sheepish in saying the word Calgary. He might be feeling a bit of embarrassment about how it played out.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Or they just weren't rushing to meet any demands. Of course Columbus was, because they need this. Its huge for Columbus and I lm happy for them.

His demand was met, before FA market opens up.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Again, if my client does something unethical I am required to quit. I can’t reveal it, but it gets kind of obvious. And maybe Gross didn’t know when the demand was made, but when JG said “I’m going to retract that” I would have said “you’re on your own”.

You can’t leave your client hanging on the biggest day of his career and the reason he has you as an agent. Gross would never get another client in his life.

I have a feeling we see Johnny with a new agent in the next 6 months potentially though.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No, invitation to treat doesn’t include a hard number like that. It’s “how much will you pay me”. Not “I will play for you if you pay me this much”. Calling it a demand changes nothing.

Indicating the price of something is an invitation to treat. All of those hard numbers you see in a grocery store are not offers, they are invitations to treat. The offer and acceptance occurs at checkout.

I'm not going to get into a lawyers' debate on CP, but I don't consider there was anything here that could be considered a binding contract. But I do speculate there could have been bad faith based on the rumours.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Southside

If this is accurate, perhaps Johnny was sort of blacklisted? I know the owners are a bit of an old boys club. Is this possibly why Philly and New Jersry backed away, they knew Johnny was a weasel and didn't want to entertain him? And yeah, sounds like Johnny's wife has her hand deep up his ass.

I think people need to ease off in blaming his wife. I don't believe his wife told him last second that she wants to leave. This is on Gaudreau and Gaudreau alone. Stop blaming the wife on his messed up.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

His demand was met, before FA market opens up.

Thats my fault, I mean the other teams, not Calgary.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Locke

Honestly? If it was his wife that put her foot down and said that this scenario would make her life miserable and he turned it down based on that....I'd certainly respect that.

If the whole ultimatum thing is true what he should have did is talk to her before making it and decide and not after.

[memphusk]

I do think that alot of teams weren't sold on him at that price either.

[Atodaso]

Originally Posted by Locke

You take the Calgary contract and your wife is pissed? Ugh...granted, again, I'd go back and say: "You should have talked about this together and sorted it out ages ago."

Perhaps they finally came to that conclusion with one or both thinking there was no way it would be matched. Then when it was Johnny and/or Meredith changed course and finally had to come clean about not wanting to stay. Cue Edwards blowing up.

In this scenario, Johnny has had is bluff about offering a road to him staying called or he's protecting his wife from the blame. Either way, he was attempting to leave in a way that didn't make it obvious that he didn't love the city enough to commit to staying 8 more years.

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[blankall]

It sounds like Johnny's wife has family in Columbus. She probably also wanted him away from all his party friends and hot spots. So a new start further away from both Calgary and NJ/Philly was probably desirable.....gee Johnny isn't this nice quiet place where my aunt's cousins live great...

Face it, we got Yoko Ono-ed.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

You can’t leave your client hanging on the biggest day of his career and the reason he has you as an agent. Gross would never get another client in his life.

I have a feeling we see Johnny with a new agent in the next 6 months potentially though.

Then their ethical obligations are not as strict as other reps. My client says right before trial “I think I have a better chance if I lie about X today” I have to tell him “If you do I’m asking for an adjournment and resigning”. If he doesn’t tell me and it happens, same thing. I can’t tell the public why. But normally they’d figure it out.

Gross would get new clients. People want ethical representation and the tactics blew up anyway. But he didn’t do anything like that and guess how teams are going to treat him and his clients going forward? How would you?

[timbit]

Originally Posted by c.t.ner

In fairness, this is pretty much the lowest bar the team could do to say goodbye. He got the social media equivalent of "it's been a pleasure working with you, all the best in the future..."

Could have been worse.

They could have shown the video of Johnny bailing out on the boards to give Oilers the series winning goal. Draisaitl to McD!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Inferno

If the whole ultimatum thing is true what he should have did is talk to her before making it and decide and not after.

Thats why I said: "They should have sorted this out ages ago."

I mean, when my wife and I make major decisions we talk about it well in advance and arrive at certain options or conclusions.

If for instance, a year ago, it was determined that Calgary "No way, no how. Not on the table."

Then you communicate that to the club. It costs you nothing. You're going to be the #1 free agent. You can go where you want and give the rest of the league a year to prep.

Not 4 hours to the deadline.

Again. I dont want to be the one blaming his wife. I dont know if thats accurate and I think its unfair all I can say is that whatever the reason was it was personal and he isnt on the Eastern Sea Board near his parents, so it kind of fits. But its unfair conjecture.