I just wonder if ya'll ever stopped to think where exactly a confused, curious or depressed kid is going to go if they don't want to go to a GSA to find support in fear of their parents finding out (and in 2019, if you fear your parents finding out then you probably have good reason).
That's right. The internet. Fear for the future.
Being taken off school campus to some unknown strangers house without the parents knowledge or permission and given sexually graphic reading material is not what I would consider appropriate . You ok with that?
* JT and his liberal bagmen bought TMX for $4.500,000.000
* Notley and her friends are going to throw another $3,700,000,000 at the issue
So a little over $8,000,000,000 of public money for something a private company was seemingly willing to do. And the pipeline has not even started to be built. I can only imagine how the government will mess that process up
seems to me that the government mismangement of this natural resource is epic. Are there any other countries who have taken a valuable commodity like this a fumbled it so badly?
The Saudi's and the american must laugh every day at what patsy's we are.
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Being taken off school campus to some unknown strangers house without the parents knowledge or permission and given sexually graphic reading material is not what I would consider appropriate . You ok with that?
Where did that come from? GSA field trips to strangers’ houses?
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* JT and his liberal bagmen bought TMX for $4.500,000.000
* Notley and her friends are going to throw another $3,700,000,000 at the issue
So a little over $8,000,000,000 of public money for something a private company was seemingly willing to do. And the pipeline has not even started to be built. I can only imagine how the government will mess that process up
seems to me that the government mismangement of this natural resource is epic. Are there any other countries who have taken a valuable commodity like this a fumbled it so badly?
The Saudi's and the american must laugh every day at what patsy's we are.
On the rail side if pipelines don’t get built the Alberta government should make a tidy profit. The Diff should settle at the cost of the marginal barrel so provided oil stays above around $50 WTI rail shipping will be profitable. Where this has a chance to blow up is if pipeline capacity increase faster than the rate of new oil.
Same with the pipeline if they get it built the pipeline has a positive NPV at a 10% discount rate so will be a profitable investment even with delays and overruns. (You might not hit a 10% rate).
Why industry isn’t doing these things is risk. So the government is risking 8 billion as opposed to wasting 8 billion.
In general I agree with you the private sector would have taken both the rail and pipeline risks if we had s reasonable regulatory environment.
^ Ultimately the 'return economics' are better for the govt too, since they not only earn money on the barrels they ship to market, but they also realize higher royalties on all barrels produced in province due to the higher realized prices for other producers.
So from the govt's perspective, the crude-by-rail solution is far more attractive to them than it would be to a suncor/shell/cenovus etc.
I don't think there is much risk of pipeline capacity increasing faster than production. Companies right now have a backlog of projects that are not being developed due to lack of takeway.
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yes, i should have expanded on my comments a little more in that there is a return on investment for what the AB gov't is trying to do.
at this point, it looks like the liberals wasted their money, as it seems they will likely never build anything.
to me it is more frustrating when the government gets in the way of something private companies were ready to do.
and, it would seem that the events of this past weekend, would suggest that shipping oil by train is more risky than via pipeline. Especially in the mountains, where it seems like more tracks follow water - but maybe i am wrong there.
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On the rail side if pipelines don’t get built the Alberta government should make a tidy profit. The Diff should settle at the cost of the marginal barrel so provided oil stays above around $50 WTI rail shipping will be profitable. Where this has a chance to blow up is if pipeline capacity increase faster than the rate of new oil.
Same with the pipeline if they get it built the pipeline has a positive NPV at a 10% discount rate so will be a profitable investment even with delays and overruns. (You might not hit a 10% rate).
Why industry isn’t doing these things is risk. So the government is risking 8 billion as opposed to wasting 8 billion.
In general I agree with you the private sector would have taken both the rail and pipeline risks if we had s reasonable regulatory environment.
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Alternatively, given the UPC has essentially promised large spending cuts this could mean that 'everything else' could be in store for even larger cuts. Health is approaching 40% of the Provincial budget. A promise to maintain this level while also promising to work on the deficit means pretty much everything else might be on the table.
Be careful what you wish for, nothing comes without a cost.
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Notley got the Calgary Cancer Centre underway, however, after years of PC postponement. As well, let's be clear here - a lot of bloat and inefficiency in AHS started prior to the NDP government. This is not an NDP-created problem.
Why does Kenney
Capitalize the first letter for words
In the middle of a sentence?
It’s nice to see him making commitments, but what he’s committing to doesn’t actually guarantee that he will maintain the current level of healthcare services available, just that he’ll spend the same amount on healthcare overall. So if someone was worried about a facility being closed down, like an abortion clinic for example, they still have no guarantee that it won’t happen, Kenney is only promising that the money saved from closing that facility would still be spent elsewhere in the healthcare system.
Is Kenney still planning on lowering taxes and balancing the budget too? I’m not saying he can’t do all 3, but with healthcare spending accounting for almost 50% of the budget it’s looking less likely that he’ll be able to do so without significant cuts to education and other infrastructure projects.
Notley got the Calgary Cancer Centre underway, however, after years of PC postponement. As well, let's be clear here - a lot of bloat and inefficiency in AHS started prior to the NDP government. This is not an NDP-created problem.
Have they done anything to reduce the bloat? Seems like during an economic downturn that would be a pretty obvious place to look.
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Why does Kenney
Capitalize the first letter for words
In the middle of a sentence?
It’s nice to see him making commitments, but what he’s committing to doesn’t actually guarantee that he will maintain the current level of healthcare services available, just that he’ll spend the same amount on healthcare overall. So if someone was worried about a facility being closed down, like an abortion clinic for example, they still have no guarantee that it won’t happen, Kenney is only promising that the money saved from closing that facility would still be spent elsewhere in the healthcare system.
Is Kenney still planning on lowering taxes and balancing the budget too? I’m not saying he can’t do all 3, but with healthcare spending accounting for almost 50% of the budget it’s looking less likely that he’ll be able to do so without significant cuts to education and other infrastructure projects.
Really Abortion clinic is where you are going with your fear mongering. You can do Better.
Most abortion clinics in Alberta are privately run and publicly funded so unless the government determines that it will no longer pay for those services it can’t just shut down clinics. If it did quit funding those services there would be immediate law suits
The least you could do is argue that it doesn’t prevent him from requiring all abortions be performed in hospital settings to severely impact the ability of private clinics causing them to close.
Why should anyone believe Kenney's "Public Health Guarantee" when he has already shown that his guarantees are worthless? Remember his "Grassroots Guarantee" that he hyped up while trying to unify the two parties and then promptly ignored shortly thereafter?
A friendly reminder: Kenney's grassrootsguarantee.ca website has now been offline for over nine months. Back in May 2018, Kenney blatantly lied by calling the site's disappearance from the web "an IT issue". That's some terrible tech support you've got there, Jason! He has absolutely no credibility when it comes to "guarantees".
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Alternatively, given the UPC has essentially promised large spending cuts this could mean that 'everything else' could be in store for even larger cuts. Health is approaching 40% of the Provincial budget. A promise to maintain this level while also promising to work on the deficit means pretty much everything else might be on the table.
Be careful what you wish for, nothing comes without a cost.
Technically since health care has an inflation rate above CPI, simply not increasing the budget would serve as a 'cut' of sorts. Plus the public sector very rarely actually 'cuts' staff or 'cuts' wages in a nominal sense (Ralph Klein as an exception). They typically implement a hiring freeze, and cut through natural attrition. No one who has a public sector job will likely ever see a pay stub with a gross pay amount lower, or will walk into work one day, get escorted aside and laid off.
The AUPE narrative would have you believe that the reality that Alberta's private sector has faced the last four years is going to manifest itself in the public sector under Jason Kenney. That's not likely.
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Really Abortion clinic is where you are going with your fear mongering. You can do Better.
Pick any other service to use as the example, I brought one up that people have been waiting for Kenney’s position on. To label that as “fear mongering” is about as laughable as the tactics you proposed a few pages back on how to resolve a strike with public sector employees.
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Most abortion clinics in Alberta are privately run and publicly funded so unless the government determines that it will no longer pay for those services it can’t just shut down clinics. If it did quit funding those services there would be immediate law suits
Taking away their funding would most likely lead to those facilities closing, otherwise they probably wouldn’t be publicly funded in the first place. What exactly would those private clinics sue the government for?
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The least you could do is argue that it doesn’t prevent him from requiring all abortions be performed in hospital settings to severely impact the ability of private clinics causing them to close.
So if I understand you correctly, you don’t disagree with me doing what you label as “fear mongering”, you’d just prefer that I do it using a different argument? I’ll be sure to take that into consideration.
