Edmonton is No Good XI: Mud, Sweatpants and Tiers

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by AC

Edmonton didn't challenge. The league reviews all goals scored in OT automatically and they saw that Buffalo was offside.

Yeah 45 seconds before the goal was scored. And it may have been offside by about a 1/2 millimetre. Any other team, but the Oilers, and I think the league just calls it a day on that one.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

The Oilers have to play a back to back tomorrow. Against a team that is also on a back to back. Hilarious how that keeps happening.

Don't forget too that the team they are playing on a back to back today had to travel to Boston for their game yesterday.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vedder

To be fair, the Kevin Lowe induction really undermined the whole institution.

He has to be in the running for worst player ever inducted into a professional sports HOF. There’s probably a hundred players outside of the NHL HOF that check more boxes.

[1qqaaz]

Gary Suter has 845 points in 1145 games, is a career +126, and had 1349 PIMS.
Rookie of the year as one of the biggest steals in history, 5 time all star, cup champ. 4th highest scoring American D (while player 500 fewer games than third place Chelios).

Seems like he kind of deserves to be in the Hall more than Lowe does.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He has to be in the running for worst player ever inducted into a professional sports HOF. There’s probably a hundred players outside of the NHL HOF that check more boxes.

Gillies is up there too.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Yeah 45 seconds before the goal was scored. And it may have been offside by about a 1/2 millimetre. Any other team, but the Oilers, and I think the league just calls it a day on that one.

The screen shots I saw weren't conclusive to me. But it's kind of telling that the Oilers were already changing into civvies.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He has to be in the running for worst player ever inducted into a professional sports HOF. There’s probably a hundred players outside of the NHL HOF that check more boxes.

Correct.

How is Keith Tkatchuk or Jeremy Roenick on the outside with Kevin inside. Makes zero sense. Fleury is his own worst enemy because he is a threat to embarrass every & anything associated with the Hall, so that can slide.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He has to be in the running for worst player ever inducted into a professional sports HOF. There’s probably a hundred players outside of the NHL HOF that check more boxes.

Player 1 1222 GP 403 points +448 * one 2nd team all star
Player 2 1254 GP 431 points +260 ** King Clancy award


* 10th all time, the rest of the top 21 are HOFers their names are Robinson, Orr, Bourque, Gretzky, Clarke, S Savard, Potvin, Lidstrom, Trottier, Lafleur, M Howe, Stevens, Shutt, Bossy, MacInnis, Park, Chelios, Lemaire, Lapointe Mikita


** 39 overall- still good and mostly surrounded by HOFers but getting into guys like Terry Harper, Ken Hodge and Jimmy Watson




now I realize +/- can be a (very) flawed stat, but when you are +448 and surrounded by elites it is saying something. inducting that player would not cheapen the HOF


player 2 is of course Lowe, player 1 a former Flame and Stanley Cup champ



both benefited from playing on very good teams, and were I suppose defensive /non-elite offensive Dmen hard to judge by available metrics

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by looooob

Player 1 1222 GP 403 points +448 * one 2nd team all star
Player 2 1254 GP 431 points +260 ** King Clancy award


* 10th all time, the rest of the top 21 are HOFers their names are Robinson, Orr, Bourque, Gretzky, Clarke, S Savard, Potvin, Lidstrom, Trottier, Lafleur, M Howe, Stevens, Shutt, Bossy, MacInnis, Park, Chelios, Lemaire, Lapointe Mikita


** 39 overall- still good and mostly surrounded by HOFers but getting into guys like Terry Harper, Ken Hodge and Jimmy Watson




now I realize +/- can be a (very) flawed stat, but when you are +448 and surrounded by elites it is saying something. inducting that player would not cheapen the HOF


player 2 is of course Lowe, player 1 a former Flame and Stanley Cup champ



both benefited from playing on very good teams, and were I suppose defensive /non-elite offensive Dmen hard to judge by available metrics

Is player 1 Brad McCrimmon?

[Jiri Hrdina]

I wish the Hall would have higher standards. Only the best of the best. Right now it's largely the Hall of Very Good.
That being said, Hakan Loob should be in there for both his contributions to the NHL and International hockey.
Also #### Kevin Lowe.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Yeah the HHOF a kind of a joke compared to baseball and football. There are some great talents that failed to make those HOFs. Hockey seems to let in any scrub who had a moderately successful career.

In conclusion, Edmonton, just like the HHOF, is no good.

[dirk diggler]

still not sure how Lowe is in but not Mogilny. much like the rock n roll hall of fame, it is a joke

[Reggie Dunlop]

They should have a Hall of No Good.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yeah the HHOF a kind of a joke compared to baseball and football. There are some great talents that failed to make those HOFs. Hockey seems to let in any scrub who had a moderately successful career.

In conclusion, Edmonton, just like the HHOF, is no good.

every Hall makes mistakes, see: Harold Baines as a recent example, but I agree baseball is tighter

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yeah the HHOF a kind of a joke compared to baseball and football. There are some great talents that failed to make those HOFs. Hockey seems to let in any scrub who had a moderately successful career.

In conclusion, Edmonton, just like the HHOF, is no good.

So...whats the Prestige left in the HHOF? I'm sure its nice to be inducted and all, but how much do people actually care?

I've been there once, I think I was 11? And I'll probably never go again. Its...pretty boring.

Is it just to able to say that you're a 'Hall of Famer' how much value does that hold?

[dirk diggler]

parade is back on, they have shut out what is probably the worst team in the NHL at the moment. Pitt is beyond awful and they deserve it by going all in with a player like Karlson, solid move Dubas

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They should have a Hall of No Good.

They do, it’s called Edmonton Oilers Alumni

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They should have a Hall of No Good.

Kevin Lowe would certainly be a first ballot hall of famer.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by looooob

every Hall makes mistakes, see: Harold Baines as a recent example, but I agree baseball is tighter

#LetShoelessIn

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Vedder

To be fair, the Kevin Lowe induction really undermined the whole institution.

Dude should've got the Theo treatment for roughly the same reasons.