2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Vinny01]

I would like to see the Flames go after Jake Gardiner from the leafs. He has good pick moving ability which fits our system, he has decent size, and is relatively young. Not sure he is worth his $4M salary but worth the risk. Something around Granlund and a 2nd or 3rd?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would like to see the Flames go after Jake Gardiner from the leafs. He has good pick moving ability which fits our system, he has decent size, and is relatively young. Not sure he is worth his $4M salary but worth the risk. Something around Granlund and a 2nd or 3rd?

Isn't Gardiner their worst defenseman defensively????

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Gardiner is basically Justin Schultz. No thanks, unless it's for Raymond straight up.

[sureLoss]

Just spitballing, but

Would you give up a 52 or 53 OA for an Islander defenceman prospect like Scott Mayfield (or another D-prospect not named Pulock/Reinhart)?

Islanders don't pick until 72nd OA and have a logjam of young defenceman in their pro system.

Maybe have to add Washington's 3rd?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Just spitballing, but

Would you give up a 52 or 53 OA for an Islander defenceman prospect like Scott Mayfield (or another D-prospect not named Pulock/Reinhart)?

Islanders don't pick until 72nd OA and have a logjam of young defenceman in their pro system.

Maybe have to add Washington's 3rd?

I would do that trade. Kid is just about ready ,but might have a hard time on Islanders huge pool of defenders. Saves flames 3 years of waiting and training. Granted his ELC would be over soon but then again most defenders ELC come to an end before they make the NHL. It takes longer for most dmen to get ready for nHL.

[868904]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Just spitballing, but

Would you give up a 52 or 53 OA for an Islander defenceman prospect like Scott Mayfield (or another D-prospect not named Pulock/Reinhart)?

Islanders don't pick until 72nd OA and have a logjam of young defenceman in their pro system.

Maybe have to add Washington's 3rd?

What does Mayfield project as? a 3rd pairing guy? Lots of PIMS, big, physical, but doesn't seem to win many fights? The new Cale Hulse?

Don't see Mayfield as any better prospect than Tyler Wotherspoon.

I'd rather take a chance in the second round (Parker Wotherspoon?) and hope for a guy who can develop into a top 4.

I think it's a good idea but Mayfield probably isn't the guy.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Just spitballing, but

Would you give up a 52 or 53 OA for an Islander defenceman prospect like Scott Mayfield (or another D-prospect not named Pulock/Reinhart)?

Islanders don't pick until 72nd OA and have a logjam of young defenceman in their pro system.

Maybe have to add Washington's 3rd?

Yeah, you make that deal every time. Mayfield is exactly what the Flames need right now and could be an excellent complimentary player to what we currently have. I would make that deal and also consider moving Wideman. His trade value has to be at the highest it has ever been, and it is very unlikely he will have similar success next season. Now would be the time to prepare for that and plan for a major change in the makeup of our blue line.

Other guys I would target are Ian McCoshen and Alex Petrovic in Florida, Mark Alt and Robert Hagg in Philadelphia, Scott Harrington and Brian Dumoulin in Pittsburgh, Jamie Oleksiak in Dallas and Jonathan-Ismael Diaby in Nashville. We could use some depth on the blue line and these guys could provide it. Just because you bring in another guy does not necessarily affect Wotherspoon and his ability to make the team. There are more than one slot on the blue line available.

[GreenLantern]

I think trading Wideman this year is a mistake, unless the deal is completely one sided of course..

Wideman was a key part of this teams success and seems to be a great mentor/locker room presence for the young guys. When a team is playing well like this you don't uproot one of the core. Didn't this happen to the Flames before a few years ago? Playing well, traded a well liked guy, team started doing horrible?

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I think trading Wideman this year is a mistake, unless the deal is completely one sided of course..

Wideman was a key part of this teams success and seems to be a great mentor/locker room presence for the young guys. When a team is playing well like this you don't uproot one of the core. Didn't this happen to the Flames before a few years ago? Playing well, traded a well liked guy, team started doing horrible?

Andrew Ference? Mike Commodore? the late Steve Montador? Dion Phaneuf?

For me it was Denis Gauthier... Should never have been let go..

But seriously, I'm not sure which dman you are speaking of.

Anyway.. With Wideman, its likely he doesn't have back to back career years.. Who knows.
But the league is very much sell high when you can especially if said player is "post apex"... Sorry.

If there's an offer at the draft, you consider it. If not, you ride him until the trade deadline. I assure you, some teams will be interested in his services based on this years playoffs alone and consider his entire season. The guys career has been reborn, IMO.

Edit: the question is, for how long?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Just spitballing, but

Would you give up a 52 or 53 OA for an Islander defenceman prospect like Scott Mayfield (or another D-prospect not named Pulock/Reinhart)?

Islanders don't pick until 72nd OA and have a logjam of young defenceman in their pro system.

Maybe have to add Washington's 3rd?

What does he bring that's significantly different from Wotherspoon? Not against the idea, but he has to have that "it" factor to top one of our current prospects that is on the cusp of making the team who has a similar game. I think I would try and get Adam Pelech, and would likely cost less.

I would attempt to pry Oleksiak out of Dallas more than Mayfield.

[H2SO4(aq)]

If we trade Wideset Dennis, were going to have to acquire two top 4 defensemen which could prove costly. I'd rather keep him and hope he can play at a .5 ppg pace for the remainder of his contract. He is a warrior and has made huge strides in his defensive game and leadership.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Andrew Ference? Mike Commodore? the late Steve Montador? Dion Phaneuf?

For me it was Denis Gauthier... Should never have been let go..

But seriously, I'm not sure which dman you are speaking of.

Anyway.. With Wideman, its likely he doesn't have back to back career years.. Who knows.
But the league is very much sell high when you can especially if said player is "post apex"... Sorry.

If there's an offer at the draft, you consider it. If not, you ride him until the trade deadline. I assure you, some teams will be interested in his services based on this years playoffs alone and consider his entire season. The guys career has been reborn, IMO.

Edit: the question is, for how long?

I don't know if he was limiting it to a defenceman. Maybe he meant Lombardi or Prust in 2009? Or Langkow?

[Buck Murdock]

Glencross appeared to be a bit of a flop in WASH, any thoughts on where he might end up on July 1, and for how much?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Glencross appeared to be a bit of a flop in WASH, any thoughts on where he might end up on July 1, and for how much?

Edmonton for 3.1 x 3.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Glencross appeared to be a bit of a flop in WASH, any thoughts on where he might end up on July 1, and for how much?

But the practices were more fun.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Glencross appeared to be a bit of a flop in WASH, any thoughts on where he might end up on July 1, and for how much?

Boston. Cheap.

[killer_carlson]

Arizona 5 years $3.5 per year for Glencross


As far as trading Wideman goes...... I really like the guy but i'm ok with exploring it.

How much could we get if we moved Wideman and kept 1/2 his contract? That would be getting a 50 point producing defenceman for 2 more years at 2.5/season. That HAS to be worth a lot on the market.

[sureLoss]

I think all the Wideman trade discussion is moot.

He seems to like it here and has a full NMC.

Coach and management have done a 180 on him from the start of the season. Even gave him an A on his jersey.

[rohara66]

It was pretty evident in the playoffs that we were lacking a useful and effective 3 defense pairing.

The talk in other threads about moving Gio is ridiculous (not gonna happen) and to a slightly lesser extent Wideman should not be moved. You need 8 NHL caliber/ready/soon to be ready defensemen to be successful in this league. You will have injuries so you better have a couple backups to jump in (ie Gio and Smid go down).

You move Wideman and you're immediately looking for a replacement for that 2/3/4 defenseman.

[Poe969]

Don't trade Wideman unless we get a HUGE overpayment and he's willing to go. If he want's to stay, I see no point in trying to move him.

Glencross won't make much on the open market considering people saw how bad he was. I mean he was a healthy scratch a few times in the playoffs. I think maybe 2 years at 3 mil with Carolina or NJ is what he'll sign on July 8th