2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

A top tier goalie will cost more then 5 mill. Rask is a top 5. So 7 mill will be fine, considering we have more then 8 allocated to Hiller and Ramo right now.

Gillies would have be part of the package going the other way but I'd be fine with that.

You realize this team is going to peak in 2-7 years. You could have lightning in a bottle with Gillies and would let him go for a quick fix?

[hockey.modern]

Would you the Flames be interested in Cory Schneider if it was win-mode? He's not elite but would be a step behind from it. Cap hit is 6/7yrs

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

You realize this team is going to peak in 2-7 years. You could have lightning in a bottle with Gillies and would let him go for a quick fix?

Rask should be elite for the next 5 to 6 years, he's hardly a 'quick fix'. And why not open the window now instead of waiting 2 years and hoping we have an elite goalie by then.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Would you the Flames be interested in Cory Schneider if it was win-mode? He's not elite but would be a step behind from it. Cap hit is 6/7yrs

I have strong doubts the Devils are going to give up their franchise goalie. Make no mistake, that's exactly who they think they have. Unless I've missed something in the past week that proves contrary.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

You realize this team is going to peak in 2-7 years. You could have lightning in a bottle with Gillies and would let him go for a quick fix?

Rask is faaar from a quick fix. You could have a lightning in a bottle with Gillies or he could turn out to be a great college goalie who couldn't translate his game to the NHL. Not that hard to imagine.

Schneider is already an elite goalie, they're building from net out. They won't be trading him.

[dammage79]

Would Don Sweeney step into the ring with Treliving again? That should be the first question before we even get to talking about their best players.

Why would the Bruins give up on Rask when he'd be the key cog in their tear down?

[JiriHrdina]

Do you think Sweeny has the self-awareness that the Hamilton deal was a bad one. In my mind it is far too close to when he made the deal for him to have that regret already.

[hockey.modern]

On a side note if the rumours are true, Marchand would be perfect fit for us. A top 6 LW that plays with an edge to compliment Bennett especially with their similarities.

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[Harry Lime]

Why all this talk of obtaining goalies? We have tonnes of depth if we do nothing. In an even better position if we divest ourselves of one.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Would Don Sweeney step into the ring with Treliving again? That should be the first question before we even get to talking about their best players.

Why would the Bruins give up on Rask when he'd be the key cog in their tear down?

Why wouldn't Sweeney? He took the best deal for Hamilton that was being offered at the time, save Edmonton.
They got the picks and took they players they targeted.

However, I agree. Rask is likely the one untouchable.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Would Don Sweeney step into the ring with Treliving again? That should be the first question before we even get to talking about their best players.

Why would the Bruins give up on Rask when he'd be the key cog in their tear down?

The amount of credit BT and Burke have thrown Sweeney's way will make him feel good. He will step back in or he should walk away from his role right now.

I don't think it was said they'd move Rask, it was suggested by one poster they don't have anything we'd want I just said they have enticing pieces.

I doubt they move Bergeron/Krejci/Rask/Krug.

Chara, Siedeberg, Eriksson, Marchand etc are the ones that will get moved.

[dammage79]

Please, for the love of all that is good and holy, no Marchand....ever. Besides, it sounds like his season is in jeopardy with this concussion. I've heard the term "Severe" surrounding that one.

[dammage79]

Speaking of goalies. I think there's a couple dark horse players out there that could have a much greater impact on the Flames than where they are now, well save one because he's off to a red hot start.

Mike Smith
Kari Lehtonen
Steve Mason

They'd all be goalies that would do Elite level stuff behind the Flames' D corps. And I feel like all three could be had in trade.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Rask should be elite for the next 5 to 6 years, he's hardly a 'quick fix'. And why not open the window now instead of waiting 2 years and hoping we have an elite goalie by then.

So when boston says sure we'll take Gillies, another top prospect, a first and a second. You say ya sure and thats not a quick fix? When you trade the future for the now thats called a quick fix. He will be 35 in 6 years. Im not saying he wont help you win games right now but rask is not the difference between winning a stanley cup this year. You make it sound as tho its a straight up trade: Gillies for Rask.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

So when boston says sure we'll take Gillies, another top prospect, a first and a second. You say ya sure and thats not a quick fix? When you trade the future for the now thats called a quick fix. He will be 35 in 6 years. Im not saying he wont help you win games right now but rask is not the difference between winning a stanley cup this year. You make it sound as tho its a straight up trade: Gillies for Rask.

And McDavid will be 35 in 17 years. Players just like people age. What's your point?

Teams have small windows and then they close. Bruins has closed.

According to you giving up the 1st, 2nd, 2nd for Hamilton was also a quick fix.

Gillies, 1st, Poirier for Rask and some salary retained? you wouldn't do that? I would. One of the best goalies and blue lines in the game and wicked top line would make us a contender this year.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

And McDavid will be 35 in 17 years. Players just like people age. What's your point?

Teams have small windows and then they close. Bruins has closed.

According to you giving up the 1st, 2nd, 2nd for Hamilton was also a quick fix.

Gillies, 1st, Poirier for Rask and some salary retained? you wouldn't do that? I would. One of the best goalies and blue lines in the game and wicked top line would make us a contender this year.

Not sure what mcdavid has to do with this..... but ya ok. You just make it sound like we get rask and thats the one missing peice. Hamilton is 22 and will still trending up. If they could pick up a guy like rask in free agency (i realize these guys dont grow on trees) that would be much better. Or we could just get our crease figured out for the year and see what gillies and ortio can do this year. Why give up on Gillies when he finally has a chance to show what he can do

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

And McDavid will be 35 in 17 years. Players just like people age. What's your point?

Teams have small windows and then they close. Bruins has closed.

According to you giving up the 1st, 2nd, 2nd for Hamilton was also a quick fix.

Gillies, 1st, Poirier for Rask and some salary retained? you wouldn't do that? I would. One of the best goalies and blue lines in the game and wicked top line would make us a contender this year.

And theres no way boston would retain salary. There would be an outright bidding war with the full cap hit.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

So when boston says sure we'll take Gillies, another top prospect, a first and a second. You say ya sure and thats not a quick fix? When you trade the future for the now thats called a quick fix. He will be 35 in 6 years. Im not saying he wont help you win games right now but rask is not the difference between winning a stanley cup this year. You make it sound as tho its a straight up trade: Gillies for Rask.

I didn't make any trade proposal at all, in any of my posts, so I have no idea where you got that from. And your proposed trade is way too much. What goalie has ever got a package like that?

I think an elite goalie is the difference between being a true contender and not being a true contender right now. You can't predict a move will win you a cup, but you can predict a move will make you a top contender for the cup.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Not sure what mcdavid has to do with this..... but ya ok. You just make it sound like we get rask and thats the one missing peice. Hamilton is 22 and will still trending up. If they could pick up a guy like rask in free agency (i realize these guys dont grow on trees) that would be much better. Or we could just get our crease figured out for the year and see what gillies and ortio can do this year. Why give up on Gillies when he finally has a chance to show what he can do

McDavid was a simple counter point to you saying Rask will be 35 in 6 years. Just saying a lot of players will be 35 and 35+ in number of years.

You're not gonna find a Rask in free agency. Did you see the UFA class this year? It's getting worse and worse every year.

Rask is 29, he doesn't need to trend upwards he needs to stay at his already elite level. I didn't say Rask is a missing piece, I said having him would make us a contender, do you doubt that? this year and next few years.

Last point, Gillies might be great or he might be a bust. We don't know. If you can get a Rask at a cost of Gillies+ you do it, imo.

Regardless, I doubt the Bruins are trading Rask anyways.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

I didn't make any trade proposal at all, in any of my posts, so I have no idea where you got that from. And your proposed trade is way too much. What goalie has ever got a package like that?

I think an elite goalie is the difference between being a true contender and not being a true contender right now. You can't predict a move will win you a cup, but you can predict a move will make you a top contender for the cup.

Miller without 6 years left on his contract netted Halak, Chris Stewart, a prospect, and a first. And i would say Rask is a better goalie.