03-08-2024, 11:08 PM
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#2041
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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An extra McKenna dart!
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03-08-2024, 11:18 PM
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#2042
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
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At this point he might as well wait until summer and see what offers he gets.
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03-09-2024, 12:21 PM
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#2043
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Franchise Player
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No 8 year deal at his preferred destination lol
Can't help but think this was partly a big F you to him and his camp. Want to be in the Eastern US? How's Vegas?
With similar offers I 100% would do the same
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03-09-2024, 12:31 PM
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#2044
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
An extra McKenna dart!
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with the Flames luck they will win the lottery for the next two drafts making them ineligible for the McKenna lottery
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03-09-2024, 12:36 PM
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#2045
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
with the Flames luck they will win the lottery for the next two drafts making them ineligible for the McKenna lottery
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Haha
I'd still take winning the next two because you don't know for sure if they'd even win the McKenna lottery
Now I'm curious though, if the Flames won the draft lottery in the 2024 and 2025 drafts, could they still win it with another teams pick in 2026 or are they ineligible to win it with ANY pick?
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03-09-2024, 12:38 PM
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#2046
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawk12
I'm very excited about the 2026 1st unprotected pick. Vegas's core likely ages out by then. Also increases the changes of the conditional 3rd becoming a 2nd.
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I think they have too much talent to decline by then, unless they decide to blow it up. What will there UFA situation be in 2026?
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03-09-2024, 12:39 PM
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#2047
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
with the Flames luck they will win the lottery for the next two drafts making them ineligible for the McKenna lottery
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Does that rule still apply if it's Vegas' pick that wins the lottery?
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03-09-2024, 12:42 PM
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#2048
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
with the Flames luck they will win the lottery for the next two drafts making them ineligible for the McKenna lottery
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so Macklin Celebrini and James Hagens. Where do I sign?
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03-09-2024, 12:47 PM
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#2049
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
so Macklin Celebrini and James Hagens. Where do I sign?
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Shhh, trying to confuse the hockey gods
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03-09-2024, 12:48 PM
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#2050
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Certainly sounds like from Conroys point interview that they couldn’t get Hanifin to sign on with an interested team which limited his return to be a “rental package with a chance to extend” instead of a sign and trade which would’ve garnered a higher return.
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03-09-2024, 12:50 PM
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#2051
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Franchise Player
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Hanifin could still get an 8 year deal if Vegas trades his rights to a team he'll extend with prior to July 1st.
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03-09-2024, 12:56 PM
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#2052
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
26 unprotected pick!
Fan960 so dumb...they are acting like this is worse, these guys do it for a living??
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No kidding.
Reading the Athletic this morning and I am honestly baffled at the total lack of knowledge on display by their hockey writers.
Even Duhatchek, who is a legend, seems to be off his game.
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03-09-2024, 01:10 PM
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#2053
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I’ve never understood the issue with unprotected future 1sts other than the current GM May not be around to reap the benefits. I’ve always preferred unprotected 1sts in future years (hardly care how far it’s pushed out) vs current yr protected 1sts or guaranteed late 1sts.
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03-09-2024, 01:12 PM
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#2054
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Hanifin could still get an 8 year deal if Vegas trades his rights to a team he'll extend with prior to July 1st.
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Not quite. He'd have to do a sign and trade to get the 8th year.
He's on Vegas' reserve list as of the deadline so that's the only team that can sign him to 8 years now. Trading just his rights doesn't allow that.
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03-09-2024, 01:16 PM
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#2055
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by AC
Not quite. He'd have to do a sign and trade to get the 8th year.
He's on Vegas' reserve list as of the deadline so that's the only team that can sign him to 8 years now. Trading just his rights doesn't allow that.
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Tkachuk was a good recent example of this. The Flames worked out a trade with Florida, then signed him to an 8 year contract before the teams entered the trade call.
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03-09-2024, 01:19 PM
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#2056
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Sec214
The Great Conroy Gamble.
Can we repeat what Colorado did with the Ottawa pick.
Stay tuned.........
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Get an injury prone defenseman that we'll later trade (but not before winning a cup) for a decent #2/3 center?
Works for me! My only problem with this is the Flames will probably do the Wish version of this scenario. A defenseman will be drafted, he will be a bust, or at least not come anywhere near his expectations and then be traded for a tweener who can score in the AHL but get sporadic 4th line duty in the NHL.
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03-09-2024, 01:26 PM
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#2057
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Tkachuk was a good recent example of this. The Flames worked out a trade with Florida, then signed him to an 8 year contract before the teams entered the trade call.
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But Tkachuk wasn't an imminent UFA at that time, he was only about to enter his last season. He forced a move early so it made sense to maximize his return with a sign and trade.
In reality a sign and trade for a pending UFA hasn't happened. Trading for someone's rights to get the exclusive negotiation has, but you only get 7 years max that way. Not sure Tampa or Florida would care about the 8th year necessarily.
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03-09-2024, 01:41 PM
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#2058
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edslunch
I think they have too much talent to decline by then, unless they decide to blow it up. What will there UFA situation be in 2026?
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The Flames are beating top teams with a no name lineup. They will have tons of capspace in the offseason. Especially if Markstrom is moved. I think Conroy is going to use it.
They’ll be better next year not worse. We have too many good players to be SJ/Chicago bad.
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03-09-2024, 01:42 PM
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#2059
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
But Tkachuk wasn't an imminent UFA at that time, he was only about to enter his last season. He forced a move early so it made sense to maximize his return with a sign and trade.
In reality a sign and trade for a pending UFA hasn't happened. Trading for someone's rights to get the exclusive negotiation has, but you only get 7 years max that way. Not sure Tampa or Florida would care about the 8th year necessarily.
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Year 8 benefits the player for sure
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03-09-2024, 03:47 PM
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#2060
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Miromanov what a bomb of a shot!
We have our Stone replacement on the PP.
This thread is going to be fun to bump regularly.
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