Edmonton is No Good X: Up and Down Like a Toilet Seat

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Groot

Between now and Oct. 31 the Oil play...

Carolina
St. Louis
Pittsburgh
St. Louis
Chicago (2nd half of b2b on the road)
Calgary

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them lose every game. The Chicago game seems like an easy W but they did keep Vegas to 1-goal. Either way, the Oil being 1-7-0 or 2-6-0 at the end of October would be full meltdown, fire the coach, fire the GM etc.

It will be glorious.

Probably a bit Optimisitc that they will lose 5/6 or 6/6.

My guess:

Carolina - L
St.Louis - W
Pittsburgh - W
St.Louis - L
Chicago - W
Calgary - L

My guess is they probably go .500 or so over the next 6. But even a 4-5-0 record to start the season isn't very good when 6 of 9 were at home.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Interesting, but not surprising, things I noticed from last night's Sabres win:

Sabres' first goal: Draisaitl loses a faceoff (4 on 3 shorthanded), but as the only forward, fails to get out high to the D-man. D-man scores.

Sabres' second goal: Draisaitl gives the puck away at the offensive blue line, coasts back but is actually in position, does a half-assed attempt at a stick lift, lets the guy go, who scores, then gives the "WTF" shrug while looking at the D.

Sabre's third goal: Draisaitl gives the puck away deep in the offensive zone, and doesn't even bother backchecking.

It makes me happy.

These are regular occurrences, he is in the JT Miller / Wheeler category of just caring about points.

And yet, every year, Oiler fans and media suggest he should be in the Selke conversation. Of all their delusions, this one is the most ridiculous, IMO.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

Lol... the Flames.


I think the Hurricanes are good.... but they haven't faced good teams themselves so far this year. Columbus (1-3), San Jose (0-5), and Seattle (1-2-1).... it will be interesting to see if we have another match up against two unbeaten teams this Saturday in the dome.

Definitely why I said “arguable”. Agreed will see how good the Canes are against good competition.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Leon is not the amazing 2 way player that RNH is. LOL

Assume this is sarcasm…. RNH has fallen off the cliff hard. He has been absolutely terrible.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Definitely why I said “arguable”. Agreed will see how good the Canes are against good competition.

We won't know until Saturday night.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Yeah. They play the equivalent of an extra few games per year… and lots of that time is on the powerplay. The oilers don’t really use a second unit powerplay. McDavid and Draisaitl are out there for 1:40 of every 2:00 powerplay.


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It's not just a few games. I did the math last season when making my case that Gaudreau had a better offensive year than McDavid.

If McDavid had Gaudreau's average ice time per game, McDavid played the equivalent of 15 extra games. That's nearly a quarter of a season. And he needed those 15 extra games to put up only 8 more points.

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Definitely why I said “arguable”. Agreed will see how good the Canes are against good competition.

Oh.... I know... you made me laugh, which is a good thing... just playing along.. I had typed something else in for Saturday's game but didn't want to jinx things so erased it.

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

It's not just a few games. I did the math last season when making my case that Gaudreau had a better offensive year than McDavid.

If McDavid had Gaudreau's average ice time per game, McDavid played the equivalent of 15 extra games. That's nearly a quarter of a season. And he needed those 15 extra games to put up only 8 more points.

Another way to put it....



McDavid scored a point for every 14 minutes and 21 seconds of ice time.


Gaudreau scored a point for every 13 minutes and 14 seconds of ice time.


Huberdeau scored a point for every 13 minutes and 30 seconds of ice time.

[Draug]

Originally Posted by looooob

3 games in and McDavid is averaging nearly 25 minutes/game, about a minute more/game than the next highest forward (Drai) who himself is a minute higher than the next highest forward (Hughes)


other names of interest include Tkachuk at 10, Johnny at 12


then you have Evander Kane at 14. Oilers with 5 of top 43 forwards in TOI , despite playing only at home


Yamamoto has more TOI/G than Huberdeau..he's 6th on the Oilers then the dropoff occurs to the bottom group

Pretty much defines the recipe for E=NG .... total dumpster fire.

If our division was stronger, betting on the Oilers to miss the playoffs would be a safe bet to make.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Interesting, but not surprising, things I noticed from last night's Sabres win:

Sabres' first goal: Draisaitl loses a faceoff (4 on 3 shorthanded), but as the only forward, fails to get out high to the D-man. D-man scores.

Sabres' second goal: Draisaitl gives the puck away at the offensive blue line, coasts back but is actually in position, does a half-assed attempt at a stick lift, lets the guy go, who scores, then gives the "WTF" shrug while looking at the D.

Sabre's third goal: Draisaitl gives the puck away deep in the offensive zone, and doesn't even bother backchecking.

It makes me happy.

On the Sabres first goal, Draisaitl didn't even make a stride other than the one he made to push out of the face-off dot. He just coasted out to the D-man.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

Another way to put it....



McDavid scored a point for every 14 minutes and 21 seconds of ice time.


Gaudreau scored a point for every 13 minutes and 14 seconds of ice time.


Huberdeau scored a point for every 13 minutes and 30 seconds of ice time.

And McDavid's ice time includes more PP time.

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Probably a bit Optimisitc that they will lose 5/6 or 6/6.

My guess:

Carolina - L
St.Louis - W
Pittsburgh - W
St.Louis - L
Chicago - W
Calgary - L

My guess is they probably go .500 or so over the next 6. But even a 4-5-0 record to start the season isn't very good when 6 of 9 were at home.

This is optimistic.

Carolina - L
* Trademark jersey toss
St.Louis - L
Pittsburgh - L
* Jay Woodcroft gets fired. Glen Gulutzan named interim head coach.
St.Louis - L
Chicago - L
Calgary - L

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And McDavid's ice time includes more PP time.

McDavid had almost 60 more minutes of PP time than Gaudreau (200 total mins). Crazy with that disparity that he only finished a handful of points ahead of Gaudreau.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Robbob

McDavid had almost 60 more minutes of PP time than Gaudreau (200 total mins). Crazy with that disparity that he only finished a handful of points ahead of Gaudreau.

Not to mention the special treatment he gets from league officiating.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

This is optimistic.

Carolina - L
* Trademark jersey toss
St.Louis - L
Pittsburgh - L
* Jay Woodcroft gets fired. Glen Gulutzan named interim head coach.
St.Louis - L
Chicago - L
Calgary - L
* Panic trade: the Oilers 1st round pick, Skinner, PullurRV to Chicago for Petr Mrazek

Added to the optimistic projection.

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And McDavid's ice time includes more PP time.

I would love to figure out a way to include that as well in an easy to compare number.



I think a great PP stat would be how many minutes of PP time per goal... (maybe it's in advance stats) because this counting goals per power play opportunity just makes no sense when 1 power play can be anywhere from a few seconds to 5 minutes - and what happens when a team is down 2 players?

[Textcritic]

I think you can just do simple PPG/PPPts / PPTOI. These numbers are all accessible on NHL.com.

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[Paulie Walnuts]

With San Jose at 0-5 and looking like a 10-win team it would be fitting if Edmonton finished 3rd worst in the NHL and won the Bedard lottery.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

With San Jose at 0-5 and looking like a 10-win team it would be fitting if Edmonton finished 3rd worst in the NHL and won the Bedard lottery.

If the oilers somehow managed to get into the draft lottery and actually land Connor Bedard the NHL should just fold up shop and call it a day.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

With San Jose at 0-5 and looking like a 10-win team it would be fitting if Edmonton finished 3rd worst in the NHL and won the Bedard lottery.

Arizona, San Jose and Chicago are probably trembling in fear of Edmonton right now. If there’s one thing you don’t want to go toe-to-toe with Edmonton on… it’s races to pick first overall. Nobody comes close to their supremacy at tanking so they can pick their next shiny new toy. Be afraid tankers. Be very afraid.


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