Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[KelVarnsen]

They'll just make voting in Calgary illegal

[FlameOn]

Announcement by the city about the Green Line Project. Council says "We can no longer afford the project".

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ndek-1.7312973

[btimbit]

We'll just circle back in a few years when it'll be even more expensive.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Seeing the province throw a complete temper tantrum if the Feds tried to step in would be satisfying

Except for that little matter of the province declaring that there can be no federal funding for municipalities. Stupid UCP.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Do they not want to get elected in Calgary anymore?

There are lots of voters in this city who think it was always a misguided waste of money. I honestly don't think this moves the needle much with respect to the prospects of re-election. I would wager most people who are perfectly happy the project is falling apart are UCP voters, and most people mad at the UCP government for killing the project were likely never going to vote UCP anyway.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Except for that little matter of the province declaring that there can be no federal funding for municipalities. Stupid UCP.

That's what I mean though. Force them to challenge it, they'll have a complete meltdown

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I'm strongly in favour of spite getting us more Federal funding for stuff in Calgary.

Realistically though the Liberals have to know they're getting exactly 0 seats in Calgary next election, and a bunch of extra transit money here might hurt them in QC/ON where they actually have a chance.

and the CPC know they don't have to do anyting to earn ABs undying loyalty.

LOSE LOSE

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Except for that little matter of the province declaring that there can be no federal funding for municipalities. Stupid UCP.

Call the UCP's bluff. Get the UCP on record using bill 18 to block Federal funding and make them take the political hit.

[shermanator]

Live look at Eau Claire Market

[timun]

Originally Posted by shermanator

Live look at Eau Claire Market

Quick, re-open the Egyptian store before the City/UCP/feds change their minds!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

https://x.com/thebreakdownab/status/...y5mSAZ94sDYevw

From the DM’s…

A source inside the provincial government tells us that the UCP is about to go to war with Calgary!

Allegedly, in order to make sure a certain UCP donor gets his train to Banff, the UCP is taking over the entire Green Line project!

Apparently the UCP believe they can weaponize the green line against @nenshi and the NDP and make their Banff train happen and in order to do so are planning on withholding funding despite Calgary passing a drastically scaled back version.

How does this make Nenshi look bad at all? Everyone knows this project will be completed at some undetermined point, the UCP has just made it more expensive by delaying it further.

[surferguy]

Yes it’ll be more expensive but you can pretty much guarantee that somebody will earn a cool million or so for the next analysis. My guess is Preston Manning.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Realistically though the Liberals have to know they're getting exactly 0 seats in Calgary next election, and a bunch of extra transit money here might hurt them in QC/ON where they actually have a chance.

Then you know very little about Ontario and Quebec.

Alberta is an afterthought and people don't even care about Doug Ford's Greenbelt corrupt shenanigans let alone transit funding for Calgary.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Yes it’ll be more expensive but you can pretty much guarantee that somebody will earn a cool million or so for the next analysis. My guess is Preston Manning.

I'd chip in money personally if they made him grab a shovel and work a regular shift.

The Green Line is fraught with problems, but the biggest issue is the same as most. The longer you wait the more expensive it gets.

[puffnstuff]

City should announce that every Green Line rider woukd have to take a shot of ivermectin before they could get on the train. Busboobs would pay for it then.

[Torture]

So how much have we already spent assuming we had funding from the Province & Feds that's wasted now?
Are Smith/Dreeshan going to pay up for those sunk costs after they gave the city assurances they could bank on the fact provincial funding was "100% secured" and now they've bailed?
Lots of utility work already done, contracts signed (pretty sure that includes some low floor trains we now can't use...), Eau Claire vacated...


What a ####ing waste. #### the UCP. So predictable, so short-sighted, and so disappointing.

[Maccalus]

Originally Posted by Torture

So how much have we already spent assuming we had funding from the Province & Feds that's wasted now?

About 1.5 billion was already allocated for land acquisition, pre construction prep and train acquisition. Unsure how much of that can be reclaimed from the contracts.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ndek-1.7312973

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Maccalus

About 1.5 billion was already allocated for land acquisition, pre construction prep and train acquisition. Unsure how much of that can be reclaimed from the contracts.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ndek-1.7312973

The city also signed a contract for new light rail vehicles from a company in Spain. Those are expected to arrive in 2027, but it's unknown what the financial implications would be if the city needed to back out of the contract.

Ah, see, we haven't been playing chess in enough dimensions. The trains will be delivered, and Danielle will snap them up at cut rate auction prices to launch her chain of train based restaurants. This has always been the long game for her, governing was just an easy angle to get there.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ah, see, we haven't been playing chess in enough dimensions. The trains will be delivered, and Danielle will snap them up at cut rate auction prices to launch her chain of train based restaurants. This has always been the long game for her, governing was just an easy angle to get there.

The future of transportation....I've been saying it!

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

The future of transportation....I've been saying it!

UCP: Sorry Locke but that tube is green, hard pass.