NFL finished naming it's top 100 players of all time. The top 10 show was this past week and here were the results.
#1: Jerry Rice
#2: Jim Brown
#3: Lawrence Taylor
#4: Joe Montana
#5: Walter Payton
#6: Johnny Unitas
#7: Reggie White
#8: Peyton Manning
#9: Don Hutson
#10: Dick Butkus
Some key things I pulled out of the article that give me hope for the future.
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Wilf, who lives in New Jersey, spent much of the past week observing practices and meeting individually with Vikings players. One of the players who met with Wilf told ESPN he sensed the owner was attempting to determine how much support remained for Childress among veteran players and wanted to remind them they could still make the playoffs.
The Vikings have an owner who cares deeply about the success of his team while still being able to let the people he's put in charge handle their duties.
Thankfully, this whole debacle of a season, may have started the process of finding new management and a new coach. This is something that I've wanted for almost 2 years now. So while this season may seem bleak, I am very hopeful that this team can turn it around in the future.
NFL finished naming it's top 100 players of all time. The top 10 show was this past week and here were the results.
#1: Jerry Rice
#2: Jim Brown
#3: Lawrence Taylor
#4: Joe Montana
#5: Walter Payton
#6: Johnny Unitas
#7: Reggie White
#8: Peyton Manning
#9: Don Hutson
#10: Dick Butkus
NFL finished naming it's top 100 players of all time. The top 10 show was this past week and here were the results.
#1: Jerry Rice
#2: Jim Brown
#3: Lawrence Taylor
#4: Joe Montana
#5: Walter Payton
#6: Johnny Unitas
#7: Reggie White
#8: Peyton Manning
#9: Don Hutson
#10: Dick Butkus
Congrats to all the players but in particular Rice on being #1 and of course P. Manning and Johnny Unitas for both being in the top 10 as Colts QB's!
On the radio this morning it was mentioned that Don Hutson had 99 career TD receptions. In the first 30 years of the NFL, the 2nd closest guy to him had 33. That record stood for 46 years. Talk about being the dominant player at your position.
I would have to put Jim Brown ahead of Jerry Rice. Everyone and his dog knew Brown was getting the ball, and he still ran for 5 yards a carry over the course of a 9 year career.
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On the radio this morning it was mentioned that Don Hutson had 99 career TD receptions. In the first 30 years of the NFL, the 2nd closest guy to him had 33. That record stood for 46 years. Talk about being the dominant player at your position.
I would have to put Jim Brown ahead of Jerry Rice. Everyone and his dog knew Brown was getting the ball, and he still ran for 5 yards a carry over the course of a 9 year career.
And everyone and their dog knew Jerry Rice was going to run a slant. He holds almost every major receiving record you can own (receptions, yards, TDs), played for 20 season, won 4 Superbowls, etc.
Jim Brown ranks 9th in rushing yards, 5th in rushing TDs, and 2nd in rushing attempts. He does rank 1st in yards per game. Brown only won 1 NFL Championship and only played 9 seasons.
IMO, it's not even close and I'm not sure why Brown is ranked as the highest RB (Smith, Tomlinson for sure and even Peyton or Sanders are in the conversation) let alone that high at all.
Edit: It should be noted my comment isn't that Rice is the greatest all time, it's simply that he's significantly better than Jim Brown. IMO, Jim Brown doesn't make the top 10.
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Jim Brown should have been #1 or #2 IMO, Rice/Montana 2-3 in whichever order you prefer.
I think Payton and LT are easily ahead of Rice.
Personally, I'd put Barry Sanders ahead of him as well. #17 for Sanders is a joke.
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And everyone and their dog knew Jerry Rice was going to run a slant. He holds almost every major receiving record you can own (receptions, yards, TDs), played for 20 season, won 4 Superbowls, etc.
Jim Brown ranks 9th in rushing yards, 5th in rushing TDs, and 2nd in rushing attempts. He does rank 1st in yards per game. Brown only won 1 NFL Championship and only played 9 seasons.
IMO, it's not even close and I'm not sure why Brown is ranked as the highest RB (Smith, Tomlinson for sure and even Peyton or Sanders are in the conversation) let alone that high at all.
Edit: It should be noted my comment isn't that Rice is the greatest all time, it's simply that he's significantly better than Jim Brown. IMO, Jim Brown doesn't make the top 10.
I don't get that part. You say Tomlinson and Smith for sure and yet Walter Payton only as a maybe? Walter Payton was better then both the first two you mentioned.
I don't get that part. You say Tomlinson and Smith for sure as yet Walter Payton only as a maybe? Walter Payton was better then both the first two you mentioned.
Fair enough. I think all 4 are better than Brown. IMO, Brown is highly highly overrated.
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Here's a simple way to look at it, and it is nothing I have broken down at all...
Who of the top 100...or even better....who of the 25 around each guy had the most HOF guys along with them. That's why, and I understand why Rice is #1 to a point, many think that he isnt. How many HOF'ers did Rice play beside versus a guy like Elway or Favre??
Respect your opinion but I disagree. I guess that is what makes these lists interesting. A lot of debate can be made on certain selections.
True enough. I should qualify my comment - highly overrated means not top 10... likely 12-15 for me.
It's good to see Manning get the respect he deserves. 1 more championship and a few more seasons at the pace he's on and the greatest QB debate will be sealed for a long long time.
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How is Steve Largent not on that list?
great point...and it goes to how subjective all of this stuff can be.
No one will ever convince me that Favre is behind 5 other QB's, based solely on being a "great football player"...because if that is the only criteria as based on the title of the list, no way he is anything but #1.
Accomplishments is another category, though he holds his spot above everyone else except a couple categories.
If its toughness, that's not debateable, nor can any one in the Top 10 approach him there either.
If its championships, then no he isn't in the discussion. Or is he when it comes to INT's...because thats who he is and why when i happened in Minnestota and people got upset, they need to look in the mirror, Thats who and what he is, always has been.
Again...all subjective, no right and no wrong but all of ot onteresting if nothing else.
Edit: It should be noted my comment isn't that Rice is the greatest all time, it's simply that he's significantly better than Jim Brown. IMO, Jim Brown doesn't make the top 10.
First off your numbers can't be correct. The guy averaged 5.2 yards per carry, yet he's 2nd all time in carries and 9th in yards? That's just plain wrong.
Rice came from an era when offences were a lot more sophisticated than they are now. You don't see 8 men stacked to one side of the field to key on a wide receiver. But the entire teams would line up to get licks in on Jim Brown. Not to mention the racial prejudice that existed in his day was far greater than anything a guy like Rice ever had to deal with.
If Barry Sanders was so much better...he played how many years, won how many championships? In 35 more career games mostly due to 16 game schedule he had fewer TD's, 3200 more yards, and 500 more receiving yards.
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First off your numbers can't be correct. The guy averaged 5.2 yards per carry, yet he's 2nd all time in carries and 9th in yards? That's just plain wrong.
Rice came from an era when offences were a lot more sophisticated than they are now. You don't see 8 men stacked to one side of the field to key on a wide receiver. But the entire teams would line up to get licks in on Jim Brown. Not to mention the racial prejudice that existed in his day was far greater than anything a guy like Rice ever had to deal with.
While true, completely irrelevant.
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If Barry Sanders was so much better...he played how many years, won how many championships? In 35 more career games mostly due to 16 game schedule he had fewer TD's, 3200 more yards, and 500 more receiving yards.
Sanders also played against defenses that were a lot more sophisticated than they were in Brown's era. 8 guys stacked in the box to key on one running back. Sanders is the modern day equivalent to Brown. I think he's better than Brown but it's closer than it is with Smith, Tomlinson and Payton.
Colts should just cut Anthony Gonzalez. Tired of him being hurt all the time. Looks like he is out for the year. This game on Sunday will be crazy. A dozen Colts could be out.
I just saw a follow up show where they had a few of the people who voted to try and find out what they were thinking, how they voted, etc.
There were 85 voters - NFL personnel, HOF voters, journalists, coaches (past and present) and so on. They had them rank all the players on a scale of 1-10, and literally added them up and ranked them on the basis of the total. Jerry Rice scored a 10 on 84 of the 85 ballots. The one who gave a 9 was Pat Summerall, and when asked why he said he didn't give out 10s.
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